Coronavirus

[Beechwoodfan]

For what it is worth, I've seen a lot of out-of-state license plates in the last couple of weeks. Many from New York, but there have been a few Kentucky plates (mostly Jefferson County) in the mix.

 

 

I saw on TV (God knows, I have no idea what program) that Florida police officers are stopping people who are coming into Florida with NY license plates. Supposedly they are taking names and addresses and telling them that they must isolate for two weeks. Have you heard this? Not sure how in the world this could be enforced.

[Voice of Reason]

I saw on TV (God knows, I have no idea what program) that Florida police officers are stopping people who are coming into Florida with NY license plates. Supposedly they are taking names and addresses and telling them that they must isolate for two weeks. Have you heard this? Not sure how in the world this could be enforced.

 

Think of it as a potential terrorist crossing the border. They may have a lethal weapon with them and you need two weeks to check their background out. If you don't do this, the health and safety of citizens in your state is at risk.

[Beechwoodfan]

Think of it as a potential terrorist crossing the border. They may have a lethal weapon with them and you need two weeks to check their background out. If you don't do this, the health and safety of citizens in your state is at risk.

 

Good analogy! I just want to know if they are trying to contain it. Of course, this KY girl is heading down in two weeks.

[Tigerpride94]

I saw on TV (God knows, I have no idea what program) that Florida police officers are stopping people who are coming into Florida with NY license plates. Supposedly they are taking names and addresses and telling them that they must isolate for two weeks. Have you heard this? Not sure how in the world this could be enforced.

 

I have condo in Florida so keep in eye on this. If you are from a few hot spot states like Louisiana and New York they give you a paper that says to self quarantine for 14 days but don’t follow up on it so basically a waste of state troopers time.

[JDEaston]

Think of it as a potential terrorist crossing the border. They may have a lethal weapon with them and you need two weeks to check their background out. If you don't do this, the health and safety of citizens in your state is at risk.

 

Yet the reason Florida was one of the last states to shut down and first to reopen is due to the tourism industry, which brings in people from all over the Country. How ironic, hah.

 

For what its worth the parents of a friend of mine have a condo in Florida, they traveled down there over the weekend and there was a checkpoint at the state line, but due to having a physical address in Florida they were allowed to continue and there was nothing mentioned to them about self isolating for two weeks.

[Voice of Reason]

South Korea getting closer to eliminating the virus. Only 5 new cases the past couple days. At one point in early or mid March the US and South Korea had both suffered less than 100 deaths. Now South Korea is around 250 total deaths and the US is around 75,000. There are 51 million people in South Korea.

 

How did they do it? Early aggressive action - testing, tracing contacts and isolation of the infected.

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

Since Kentucky's first reported case of COVID-19, here's a comparison of how the Kentucky numbers compare to things nationally. There should be some lag, by nature, because the United States' index case was confirmed on January 15th and Kentucky' index case was confirmed 50 days later on March 6th.

 

March 6

KY - 1 case; 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 214 cases; 15 deaths (7.01% mortality rate)

 

March 7

KY - 1 case (00.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 279 cases (30.37% increase); 19 deaths (6.81% mortality rate)

March 8

KY - 4 cases (300.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 423 cases (51.61% increase); 22 deaths (5.20% mortality rate)

March 9

KY - 6 cases (50.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 647 cases (52.96% increase); 26 deaths (4.02% mortality rate)

March 10

KY - 8 cases (33.33% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 937 cases (44.82% increase); 30 deaths (3.20% mortality rate)

 

March 11

KY - 8 cases (0.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 1215 cases (29.67% increase); 38 deaths (3.13% mortality rate)

March 12

KY - 11 cases (37.50% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 1629 cases (34.07% increase); 41 deaths (2.52% mortality rate)

March 13

KY - 14 cases (27.27% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 1896 cases (16.39% increase); 48 deaths (2.53% mortality rate)

 

March 14

KY - 16 cases (14.29% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 2234 cases (17.83% increase); 57 deaths (2.55% mortality rate)

March 15

KY - 20 cases (25.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 3487 cases (56.09% increase); 69 deaths (1.98 mortality rate)

March 16

KY - 22 cases (10.00% increase); 1 death (4.55% mortality rate)

US - 4226 cases (21.19% increase); 87 deaths (2.06% mortality rate)

 

March 17

KY - 26 cases (18.18% increase); 1 death (3.85% mortality rate)

US - 7038 cases (66.54% increase); 110 deaths (1.56% mortality rate)

March 18

KY - 35 cases (34.62% increase); 1 death (2.56% mortality rate)

US - 10442 cases (48.37% increase); 150 deaths (1.44% mortality rate)

 

March 19

KY - 40 cases (14.29% increase); 2 deaths (5.00% mortality rate)

US - 15219 cases (45.75% increase); 206 deaths (1.35% mortality rate)

March 20

KY - 48 cases (20.00% increase); 3 deaths (6.25% mortality rate)

US - 18747 cases (23.18% increase); 255 deaths (1.35% mortality rate)

March 21

KY - 63 cases (31.25% increase); 3 deaths (4.76% mortality rate)

US - 24583 cases (31.13% increase); 301 deaths (1.22% mortality rate)

March 22

KY - 99 cases (57.14% increase); 3 deaths (3.03% mortality rate)

US - 33404 cases (35.88% increase); 400 deaths (1.19% mortality rate)

March 23

KY - 124 cases (25.25% increase); 4 deaths (3.23% mortality rate)

US - 44183 cases (32.27% increase); 544 deaths (1.23% mortality rate)

March 24

KY - 163 cases (31.45% increase); 4 deaths (2.45% mortality rate)

US - 54453 cases (23.24% increase); 737 deaths (1.35% mortality rate)

March 25

KY - 198 cases (21.47% increase); 5 deaths (2.52% mortality rate)

US - 68440 cases (25.69% increase); 994 deaths (1.45% mortality rate)

 

March 26

KY - 248 cases (25.25% increase); 5 deaths (2.01% mortality rate)

US - 85356 cases (24.72% increase); 1246 deaths (1.46% mortality rate)

March 27

KY - 302 cases (21.77% increase); 7 deaths (2.32% mortality rate)

US - 103321 cases (21.05% increase); 1668 deaths (1.61% mortality rate)

 

March 28

KY - 394 cases (30.46% increase); 7 deaths (1.78% mortality rate)

US - 122653 cases (18.71% increase); 2112 deaths (1.72% mortality rate)

 

March 29

KY - 439 cases (11.42% increase); 8 deaths (1.82% mortality rate)

US - 140904 cases (14.88% increase); 2405 deaths (1.71% mortality rate)

 

March 30

KY - 480 cases (9.34% increase); 11 deaths (2.29% mortality rate)

US - 163539 cases (16.06% increase); 2860 deaths (1.75% mortality rate)

 

March 31

KY - 591 cases (23.13% increase); 17 deaths (2.88% mortality rate)

US - 186101 cases (13.80% increase); 3603 deaths (1.94% mortality rate)

 

April 1

KY - 680 cases (15.06% increase); 20 deaths (2.94% mortality rate)

US - 213144 cases (14.53% increase); 4512 deaths (2.12% mortality rate)

 

April 2

KY - 780 cases (14.71% increase); 31 deaths (3.97% mortality rate)

US - 239279 cases (12.26% increase); 5443 deaths (2.27% mortality rate)

 

April 3

KY - 831 cases (6.54% increase); 37 deaths (4.45% mortality rate)

US - 277205 cases (15.85% increase); 6893 deaths (2.49% mortality rate)

 

April 4

KY - 917 cases (10.35% increase); 40 deaths (4.36% mortality rate)

US - 304826 cases (9.96% increase); 7616 deaths (2.50% mortality rate)

 

April 5

KY - 955 cases (4.14% increase); 45 deaths (4.71% mortality rate)

US - 330891 cases (8.55% increase); 8910 deaths (2.96% mortality rate)

 

April 6

KY - 1008 cases (5.55% increase); 59 deaths (5.85% mortality rate)

US - 374329 cases (13.13% increase); 12064 deaths (3.22% mortality rate)

 

April 7

KY - 1149 cases (13.99% increase); 65 deaths (5.66% mortality rate)

US - 395011 cases (5.53% increase); 12754 deaths (3.23% mortality rate)

 

April 8

KY - 1346 cases (17.15% increase); 73 deaths (5.42% mortality rate)

US - 427460 cases (8.21% increase); 14696 deaths (3.44% mortality rate)

 

April 9

KY - 1452 cases (7.88% increase); 79 deaths (5.44% mortality rate)

US - 459165 cases (7.42% increase); 16752 deaths (3.65% mortality rate)

 

April 10

KY - 1694 cases (16.67% increase); 90 deaths (5.31% mortality rate)

US - 492416 cases (7.24% increase); 18559 deaths (3.77% mortality rate)

 

April 11

KY - 1840 cases (8.62% increase); 94 deaths (5.11% mortality rate)

US - 525704 cases (6.76% increase); 20468 deaths (3.89% mortality rate)

 

April 12

KY - 1963 cases (6.68% increase); 97 deaths (4.94% mortality rate)

US - 554849 cases (5.54% increase); 21942 deaths (3.95% mortality rate)

 

April 13

KY - 2048 cases (4.33% increase); 104 deaths (5.08% mortality rate)

US - 579005 case (4.35% increase); 22252 deaths (3.84% mortality rate)

 

April 14

KY - 2210 cases (7.91% increase); 115 deaths (5.20% mortality rate)

US - 605390 cases (4.56% increase); 24582 deaths (4.06% mortality rate)

 

April 15

KY - 2291 cases (3.67% increase); 122 deaths (5.33% mortality rate)

US - 632548 cases (4.49% increase); 31071 deaths (4.91% mortality rate)

 

April 16

KY - 2429 cases (6.02% increase); 129 deaths (5.31% mortality rate)

US - 661712 cases (4.61% increase); 33049 deaths (4.99% mortality rate)

 

April 17

KY - 2522 cases (3.83% increase); 137 deaths (5.43% mortality rate)

US - 690714 cases (4.38% increase); 35443 deaths (5.13% mortality rate)

 

April 18

KY - 2707 cases (7.34% increase); 144 deaths (5.32% mortality rate)

US - 720630 cases (4.33% increase); 37202 deaths (5.16% mortality rate)

 

April 19

KY - 2960 cases (9.35% increase); 148 deaths (5.00% morality rate)

US - 746625 cases (3.61% increase); 39083 deaths (5.23% mortality rate)

 

April 20

KY - 3050 cases (3.04% increase); 154 deaths (5.05% mortality rate)

US - 776093 cases (3.95% increase); 41758 deaths (5.38% mortality rate)

 

April 21

KY - 3227 cases (5.80% increase); 171 deaths (5.30% mortality rate)

US - 802583 cases (3.41% increase); 44575 deaths (5.55% mortality rate)

 

April 22

KY - 3373 cases (4.52% increase); 185 deaths (5.48% mortality rate)

US - 828441 cases (3.22% increase); 46379 deaths (5.59% mortality rate)

 

April 23

KY - 3481 cases (3.20% increase); 191 deaths (5.49% mortality rate)

US - 865585 cases (4.48% increase); 48816 deaths (5.64% mortality rate)

 

April 24

KY - 3779 cases (8.56% increase); 200 deaths (5.29% mortality rate)

US - 895766 cases (3.49% increase); 50439 deaths (5.63% mortality rate)

 

April 25

KY - 3905 cases (3.33% increase); 205 deaths (5.25% mortality rate)

US - 928619 cases (3.67% increase); 52459 deaths (5.65% mortality rate)

 

April 26

KY - 4074 cases (4.33% increase); 208 deaths (5.11% mortality rate)

US - 957875 cases (3.15% increase); 53922 deaths (5.63% mortality rate)

 

April 27

KY - 4146 cases (1.77% increase); 213 deaths (5.14% mortality rate)

US - 981246 cases (2.44% increase); 55258 deaths (5.63% mortality rate)

 

April 28

KY - 4375 cases (5.52% increase); 225 deaths (5.14% mortality rate)

US - 1005147 cases (2.44% increase); 57505 deaths (5.72% mortality rate)

 

April 29

KY - 4539 cases (3.75% increase); 235 deaths (5.18% mortality rate)

US - 1031659 cases (2.64% increase); 60057 deaths (5.82% mortality rate)

 

April 30

KY - 4708 cases (3.72% increase); 240 deaths (5.10% mortality rate)

US - 1062446 cases (2.98% increase); 62406 deaths (5.87% mortality rate)

 

May 1

KY - 4879 cases (3.63% increase); 248 deaths (5.08% mortality rate)

US - 1092815 cases (2.86% increase); 64283 deaths (5.88% mortality rate)

 

May 2

KY - 5050 cases (3.50% increase); 253 deaths (5.01% mortality rate)

US - 1122486 cases (2.72% increase); 65735 deaths (5.86% mortality rate)

 

May 3

KY - 5130 cases (1.58% increase); 253 deaths (4.93% mortality rate)

US - 1152372 cases (2.66% increase); 67456 deaths (5.85% mortality rate)

 

May 4

KY - 5245 cases (2.24% increase); 261 deaths (4.98% mortality rate)

US - 1171510 cases (1.66% increase); 68279 deaths (5.83% mortality rate)

 

May 5

KY - 5822 cases (11.00% increase); 275 deaths (4.72% mortality rate)

US - 1193813 cases (1.90% increase); 70802 deaths (5.93% mortality rate)

May 6

KY - 5934 cases (1.92% increase); 283 deaths (4.77% mortality rate)

US - TBD

DATA SOURCES:

United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

 

Kentucky Department of Public Health https://govstatus.egov.com/kycovid19

[Voice of Reason]

About half of the new cases reported in Kentucky on May 5 were from the Green County Correctional facility.

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

About half of the new cases reported in Kentucky on May 5 were from the Green County Correctional facility.

 

Yep. Otherwise the rate of increase has been gradually dropping for the last week or week and a half.

 

One thing I'm relatively surprised by is the fact that Kentucky is trending lower than the national rate of mortality. That's impressive given the fact that Kentucky is annually in the bottom 5 or 10 states in the country in terms of overall health of state residents.

[CincySportsFan]

South Korea getting closer to eliminating the virus. Only 5 new cases the past couple days. At one point in early or mid March the US and South Korea had both suffered less than 100 deaths. Now South Korea is around 250 total deaths and the US is around 75,000. There are 51 million people in South Korea.

 

How did they do it? Early aggressive action - testing, tracing contacts and isolation of the infected.

 

I'm going to toss this out there, just because it seems that a ton of people on Facebook seem to be posting a lot about it lately.

 

But, could South Korea's death total be based upon those who died solely because of the virus...and not those who had a comorbidity? There seems to be a conspiracy theory out there that alleges it's in the hospitals best interest financially to declare a death Covid19 related versus not. If hospitals in South Korea don't have that motivation...

[Voice of Reason]

I'm going to toss this out there, just because it seems that a ton of people on Facebook seem to be posting a lot about it lately.

 

But, could South Korea's death total be based upon those who died solely because of the virus...and not those who had a comorbidity? There seems to be a conspiracy theory out there that alleges it's in the hospitals best interest financially to declare a death Covid19 related versus not. If hospitals in South Korea don't have that motivation...

 

Conspiracy theories are all bull. Don't believe the falsebook crap. There is more fake news posted in an hour on social media than there is in a year in the real news media.

 

Think about it. Over 70,000 deaths versus 255 deaths. How can there be that big a difference due to comorbidity reporting? South Korea managed this thing right. They didn't dream it would miraculously disappear. They aren't waiting and watching people die so they get to some hoped for herd immunity. They started mass producing test kits when the first case arrived. They aggressively attacked all the cases early with tracing and quarantines. They tested everyone with a possible contact with an infected person and put those testing positive in isolation before they walked around for two weeks spreading it around. They got in front of the virus and snuffed it out.

 

That is why I worry we are opening a little too soon. There are still too many cases for us to manage it the way they are in South Korea. If we wait a couple more weeks, we might have a chance to control it. Reopen when you have the testing and resources to be able to trace cases back and test everyone in contact with an infected person who might have it to keep them from spreading it.

Edited May 7, 2020 by Voice of Reason

[Voice of Reason]

By the way, pro baseball is being played in South Korea. If we do this the right way, we can get back more normalcy. If we bow to the loud and ignorant wearing no masks and posting baloney on falsebook, we chase our tails till medical science provides a treatment.

[PurplePride92]

I think COVID fatigue is setting in with me and I don’t anticipate making many more posts in here.

 

As we begin to open things back up slowly regardless of where we stand on the pandemic I do want to say that I hope everyone stays safe and healthy out here. I hope that things can get back to normal as soon as possible. Y’all stay safe.

[Bluegrasscard]

By the way, pro baseball is being played in South Korea. If we do this the right way, we can get back more normalcy. If we bow to the loud and ignorant wearing no masks and posting baloney on falsebook, we chase our tails till medical science provides a treatment.

 

We were told over and over and over in February and early March it was not needed. Now, its magically needed on May 11th.

 

Feb 29th, Forbes:

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/02/29/despite-covid-19-coronavirus-here-is-why-you-should-stop-buying-face-masks/#7159c4502ab8

 

Keep in mind that buying most face masks out there can be like purchasing a scented trash bag: a huge waste of money. Many available masks are going to do diddly squat for you.

 

Feb 27th:

 

Doctors debunk masks as protection against coronavirus | KOMO

 

“For the general population, masks are not where we should focus our prevention efforts,” said Dr. Santiago Neme, an infectious diseases expert at UW Medicine.

 

Feb 28th, The Hill:

 

Coronavirus is causing a worldwide panic about face masks. Should you join in? | TheHill

 

The irony is that surgical masks will do little, if anything, to protect you from coronavirus. They are designed to prevent the spread of germs and viruses by the wearer to people nearby,...

...

Health experts say masking large segments of the world’s populations is neither possible nor necessary. The best defense against infection is to stay away from parts of the world where the virus has hit epidemic levels and people who have travelled to those areas.

 

Otherwise, basic hygiene protects against infection by all sorts of pathogens, including the flu and common colds.

 

 

 

March 4th Chicago Daily Herald:

 

DON'T buy face masks unless you have COVID-19! What you should really buy and do

 

Reports of local cases of COVID-19 illness, which is caused by the coronavirus, have led people to stockpile everything from hand sanitizer to face masks, leading U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams to beg Saturday on Twitter, "Seriously people -- STOP BUYING MASKS!"

 

"They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if health care providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!" Adams continued. The CDC "does not recommend that people who are well wear a face mask to protect themselves from respiratory diseases, including COVID-19."

 

March 1, Sacramento Bee:

 

https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article240780786.html

 

“The average healthy person does not need to have a mask, and they shouldn’t be wearing masks,” says Dr. Eli Perencevich, a professor of medicine and epidemiology at the University of Iowa’s College of Medicine, according to Forbes.

 

“There’s no evidence that wearing masks on healthy people will protect them,” Perencevich said, the publication reported. “They wear them incorrectly, and they can increase the risk of infection because they’re touching their face more often.”

 

Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article240780786.html#storylink=cpy

 

This article shows that different guidance was given in April though its still notes - WHO says healthy people do not need masks:

 

Update (April 5): The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has now recommended that people wear face masks in public, McClatchy News reports.

 

Health officials say it’s not because surgical masks are any more effective at protecting people from viruses — they’re not — but because wearing masks could help prevent infectious people who are asymptomatic from unintentionally spreading the COVID-19 virus.

 

The World Health Organization has not changed its position, which says marks (sic) are not needed in public for those who don’t already have coronavirus.

 

Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article240780786.html#storylink=cpy

 

 

So are mask good or needed? Or are they not? The experts at invididual and worldwide organizational levels can not agree. So why should we be pressured into something that is not accepted by the "highest" ranking health organization - WHO. After all - its their declared pandemic.

 

Most people seem just over the whole issue at this point. And they should be. The curve was flattened and killed. Now it seems the goal post has moved and people are more and more angry every day because of that.

 

Personally, I would like to see the restrictions on support persons for hospital patients lifted as a specific action. That specific restriction has far out lived any potential usefulness.

[ChiefSmoke]

 

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This is encouraging. The purpose of the restrictions was to flatten the curve. Looks like it has been successful. I would think this means we can do more sooner than anticipated. Hope so.