Palin Attacks Obama on ‘Palling Around with Terrorists’

[Trinity alum]

Those of us that fought the battles of the sixties 40 years ago would mostly be content to leave those battles in the sixties. What Ayers did in the sixties has nothing to do with what is facing the country today. If that is all McCain and Palin have to offer, they should go home.

[shooter]

Can someone please tell me exactly what Ayers has been convicted of and spent jail time for?

 

 

To paraphrase Bill Ayers he's guilty as heck and free as a bird.

 

He has not spent time in jail because of prosecutorial misconduct but he has freely admitted that he took part in the terrorist bombings.

[Fastbreak]

The transcript was not verbatim with the interview, so I assume that at least some of what was editted out of the interview was left in the transcript.

 

I really subscribe to the "somewhere in the middle" philosophy. The truth may be REALLY close to one of those two points, but it is not EXACTLY either of the two.

On this point we can agree.

 

My point is the absurdity of one side trying to paint a candidate as a genius and the other side trying to paint them as a buffoon based on nothing more than highly scrutinized, edited and broadcast soundbites that are nothing more than the propaganda of whichever media outlet airs them.

 

We may not be a socialist nation yet, but we are closer than we've ever been in my five decades of existence.

[4chs]

On the other hand, when a candidate tells me what he's going to do for me when he gets elected, it tends to make me think that he's feeding me a line of bull.

 

True, this is the predicament we undecided voters face. I'm just tired of both sides trying to be the lesser of two evils instead of trying to be the solution. I don't believe McCain can win this way, Obama possibly can due to several things, including the numbers being on his side and the Bush factor.

[UKPat02]

This is a completely non-partisan question, nothing but a talking point:

 

Does the American public view a domestic terrorist like Ayers or McVeigh differently than they would an Arab terrorist?

[acemona]

That was the only year in which the Palins' annual income even approached $200,000. When Joe Biden decided to run for president, he helped land his lobbyist son a job that paid a salary of $1.2 million per year.

 

The Obamas net worth dwarfs the Palins and their explosion of wealth has taken place during the three years that he has served in the US Senate. Sarah Palin and her husband have been squarely middle class for nearly their entire lives and they are much closer to the middle class than any of the other three candidates.

 

Here is Sarah Palin's home, which was built in large part by her husband Todd:

 

 

Here is Barrack Obama's house and yard, purchased with the help of Barrack's good friend, convicted felon and slum lord, Tony Rezko:

 

 

Here is Joe Biden's humble abode:

 

 

Which house looks like it might be the home of a middle class American to you?

 

Where is the picture of the plane that goes with Palin's house?

Edited October 6, 2008 by acemona

[acemona]

Is Charles Keating a financial terrorist?? He cost lots of people their jobs and really hurt the economy? He was aided and abetted by Senator McCain.

[formerkywrestler]

This is a completely non-partisan question, nothing but a talking point:

 

Does the American public view a domestic terrorist like Ayers or McVeigh differently than they would an Arab terrorist?

I personally think so. If it's an Arab terrorist then people have something to go after that doesn't look like them (for the majority). I think someone like McVeigh who looks like the majority of Americans doesn't produce the same sentiments with people. No doubt that the public finds his acts just as atrocious, but you don't see the racial, religous, and ethnic bigotry that you do when it's an Arab terrorist.

[H]

If you feel safe w/ a President who associates w/ terrorists that's on you. I wouldn't. They were though however more than just neighbors.

 

 

Give me a break. Ayers was not engaged in terrrorism when he and Obama crossed paths, therefore it is inaccurate to say he "associates with terrorists". This is an attempt to smear Obama by association because McCain's ship is sinking fast and he is shooting blanks on every issue from the economy to Iraq.

[H]

So he's a "reformed terrorist" a "former terrorist?" Did he go to anger management class to cure his terrorism, or maybe he found religion and that cured him? C'mon, H, I give you credit for more transparency than that.

 

 

Hearsay, you're an intelligent enough person (attorney, I believe?) to recognize that knowing someone and working with someone does not necessarily equate to subscribing to any of their beliefs. Should criminal defense attorneys be vilified for having questionable judgment because they "associate" with murderers, rapists, and thieves? Do their associations prove that they, themselves, believe murder, rape, and stealing is acceptable? I expected dialog on a higher intellectual plane from you.

[Hoot Gibson]

Give me a break. Ayers was not engaged in terrrorism when he and Obama crossed paths, therefore it is inaccurate to say he "associates with terrorists". This is an attempt to smear Obama by association because McCain's ship is sinking fast and he is shooting blanks on every issue from the economy to Iraq.

:lol: So, Obama did not go on any bombing runs with the unrepentant terrorist, did not witness any terrorist acts, only has said terrorist's word and news accounts that he is indeed a proud and unrepentant terrorist. Therefore, said unrepentant terrorist is simply your garden variety, peace loving college English professor. Got it. :thumb:

[rockmom]

I personally think so. If it's an Arab terrorist then people have something to go after that doesn't look like them (for the majority). I think someone like McVeigh who looks like the majority of Americans doesn't produce the same sentiments with people. No doubt that the public finds his acts just as atrocious, but you don't see the racial, religous, and ethnic bigotry that you do when it's an Arab terrorist.

 

Doesn't that seem weird to you? I mean, it scares me more to know the "guy next door" may be the one who intends to do me harm, than those I do know.

[H]

:lol: So, Obama did not go on any bombing runs with the unrepentant terrorist, did not witness any terrorist acts, only has said terrorist's word and news accounts that he is indeed a proud and unrepentant terrorist. Therefore, said unrepentant terrorist is simply your garden variety, peace loving college English professor. Got it. :thumb:

 

 

You know, at the end of the day, all you can spin this entire convoluted thing as is something along the lines of "Barack Obama has questionable judgement because he associated with Bill Ayers ten years ago". That's all you can claim with this. So, go ahead and peddle that vague, fear-laced notion and see how it sells when people are watching the Dow plunge below 10,000 and wondering how far and how fast the economy will continue to deteriorate. I suspect the electorate will soundly reject this xenophobic nonsense as completely off track from the most pressing concrete issues facing the country.

 

Good luck.

[Hoot Gibson]

You know, at the end of the day, all you can spin this entire convoluted thing as is something along the lines of "Barack Obama has questionable judgement because he associated with Bill Ayers ten years ago". That's all you can claim with this. So, go ahead and peddle that vague, fear-laced notion and see how it sells when people are watching the Dow plunge below 10,000 and wondering how far and how fast the economy will continue to deteriorate. I suspect the electorate will soundly reject this xenophobic nonsense as completely off track from the most pressing concrete issues facing the country.

 

Good luck.

:lol: As Ronald Reagan might way, there you go again. Obama's relationship with Ayers is not ancient history as your "ten years ago" statement indicates. Talk about spin.

 

You "xenophobic nonsense" characterization is both insulting and nonsensical. I am no sure what Bill Ayers' heritage is but I am pretty sure that he does not qualify as a target for xenophobic resentment.

 

To label American citizens who object to the idea of having a president who had a long relationship with a terrorist and then lied about it is pretty nonsensical, IMO. For some reason, I suspect that if John McCain had sat on boards with the relatively peaceful David Duke and launched his political career in Duke's living room, Obama's defenders would be the most vocal in attacking McCain for exercising such bad judgment.

 

Knowingly associating with terrorists is wrong no matter how you spin it.

[H]

Funny you should call her an empty suit, something Obama is and has been since he first set his eyes on the White House. You will only hear what you want to from her, that much is painfully obvious to all. Your disdain for anything Republican is laughable at best. How about you tell me what Obama's good for, besides giving flowery scripted speeches to friendly supporters. Why do you think he picked Biden as his running mate? Because he's such a lightweight, that's why. He certainly doesn't reach across party lines. He's a disaster in the making.

At least Palin has run a business, been a Mayor, been a Governor, you know, had leader experience. Oh, but I guess you can always come back with Obama's been a Community Organizer. :lol:

 

 

Palin got flustered and appeared to have a brainlock when asked the tough questions like, "What newspapers do you read?" She thinks she has foreign policy experience because you can see a remote part of Russia from a remote part of Alaska. She struggles to answer unscripted, free-form questions. She is not ready from prime time, to be overly kind.

 

The American public has evaluated Obama over countless interviews and debates over several years and they are comfortable with his intellect. Sarah Palin is the butt of jokes using her own words as the punch lines. :lol: