Palin Attacks Obama on ‘Palling Around with Terrorists’

[Ms Liberty]

Don't forget that part. He can't speak off the top of his head very well. "Um, ah, ooh, well, um, er"...ad infinitum. He makes President Bush sound like a Mensa candidate.

 

:thumb::thumb:

[Ms Liberty]

Forgive me if I don't consider someone who made $230,000 last year and has a net worth of 1.2 million as a "real" middle class american.

 

I heard they both just made $166,000 in 2007. I don't recall their net worth , but I'm guessing it is not that!

[Hoot Gibson]

Forgive me if I don't consider someone who made $230,000 last year and has a net worth of 1.2 million as a "real" middle class american.

That was the only year in which the Palins' annual income even approached $200,000. When Joe Biden decided to run for president, he helped land his lobbyist son a job that paid a salary of $1.2 million per year.

 

The Obamas net worth dwarfs the Palins and their explosion of wealth has taken place during the three years that he has served in the US Senate. Sarah Palin and her husband have been squarely middle class for nearly their entire lives and they are much closer to the middle class than any of the other three candidates.

 

Here is Sarah Palin's home, which was built in large part by her husband Todd:

 

 

Here is Barrack Obama's house and yard, purchased with the help of Barrack's good friend, convicted felon and slum lord, Tony Rezko:

 

 

Here is Joe Biden's humble abode:

 

 

Which house looks like it might be the home of a middle class American to you?

[Fastbreak]

Forgive me if I don't consider someone who made $230,000 last year and has a net worth of 1.2 million as a "real" middle class american.

The governor of Alaska is paid $125,000 a year. ($12,506 less than Kentucky's governor.)

 

If the Palin's earned $166,000 as has been reported, that means the First Dude's earnings from his fishing boat qnd snow machine racing were just about $41,000 which sounds about right after business expenses are deducted. That could also explain your $230,000 amount as gross before legal business deductions. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that $166,000 is in any way suffering, but is hardly what I would define as being wealthy for a family of six.

 

I don't know where you got your $1.2 million net worth figure?

[Fastbreak]

Did you listen to the Couric interview?

I haven't said a whole lot on BGP about what I do to earn income, and I don't intend to here.

 

I will simply state that part of my work involves "interviewing" people on camera. You would not believe how easy it is to take an hour of footage with any individual and edit it in such a manner as to make them appear brilliant and concise, or as rambling, bumbling idiots. I don't care who it is, how smart they may or may not be, how prepared or polished they may be. The tale of the tape is in the edit. A good interviewer and editor can make anyone appear more intelligent or less intelligent than they may actually be. I'm not suggesting that Palin should run Mission Control at NASA anytime soon, but I am saying that the Couric interview was not edited in a friendly and helpful manner. Whether there was an anti-Palin agenda in play, or simply that the interviewer and editor did nothing to polish Palin's presentation, the fact is a good editor friendly to Palin could have given the Couric interview an entirely different presentation.

 

Proof of this is an essentially identical series of conversations Greta VanSustern did with Palin in Alaska following the Rep Convention. Greta spent several days following Palin around her home and speaking with her neighbors. The entire piece has a very upbeat and positive vibe. Palin came off looking much more as she did at the Convention and the Debate.

 

Of course I realize there is no bias in the media, and I am once again fantasizing.

[True blue (and gold)]

I haven't said a whole lot on BGP about what I do to earn income, and I don't intend to here.

 

I will simply state that part of my work involves "interviewing" people on camera. You would not believe how easy it is to take an hour of footage with any individual and edit it in such a manner as to make them appear brilliant and concise, or as rambling, bumbling idiots. I don't care who it is, how smart they may or may not be, how prepared or polished they may be. The tale of the tape is in the edit. A good interviewer and editor can make anyone appear more intelligent or less intelligent than they may actually be. I'm not suggesting that Palin should run Mission Control at NASA anytime soon, but I am saying that the Couric interview was not edited in a friendly and helpful manner. Whether there was an anti-Palin agenda in play, or simply that the interviewer and editor did nothing to polish Palin's presentation, the fact is a good editor friendly to Palin could have given the Couric interview an entirely different presentation.

 

Proof of this is an essentially identical series of conversations Greta VanSustern did with Palin in Alaska following the Rep Convention. Greta spent several days following Palin around her home and speaking with her neighbors. The entire piece has a very upbeat and positive vibe. Palin came off looking much more as she did at the Convention and the Debate.

 

Of course I realize there is no bias in the media, and I am once again fantasizing.

 

Media bias...is it possible that Foxnews manipulated things to make Palin look good?

 

For interviews, the transcripts are the best way to go.

[Hoot Gibson]

Michelle Obama invites some guy from the neighborhood to speak at the University of Chicago's Community Service Center.

 

Close-up on juvenile justice

Author, former offender among speakers

 

Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent seven years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher at the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher at the Detention Center.

 

The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a "kind and just parent" for children in crisis.

 

One hundred years later, the system is "overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist," Ayers said.

 

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

[UKPat02]

Back to the original topic, here's what I found out about Palin's attack:

Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

[Fastbreak]

Media bias...is it possible that Foxnews manipulated things to make Palin look good?

 

For interviews, the transcripts are the best way to go.

I didn't claim the media was only biased in one direction... so absolutely yes, it is possible that Fox did a positive piece. Therefore, the real truth about Palin may rest somewhere in the middle of the two.

 

Transcripts are only as accurate as the edited pieces they are lifted from. :thumb:

[UKPat02]

I didn't claim the media was only biased in one direction... so absolutely yes, it is possible that Fox did a positive piece. Therefore, the real truth about Palin may rest somewhere in the middle of the two.

 

Transcripts are only as accurate as the edited pieces they are lifted from. :thumb:

 

The way you talk we already live in a socialist society.

[Hoot Gibson]

Back to the original topic, here's what I found out about Palin's attack:

Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

That is great news. There is no evidence that Obama has palled around with terrorists for the past three years. That shows great judgment on Obama's part. :lol:

 

I don't think that there is a statute of limitations on bad judgment or questionable character. Palin never said that Obama is currently keeping company with his pal Bill Ayers. Doing so during a presidential campaign would show poor judgment and stupidity on Obama's part.

[UKPat02]

That is great news. There is no evidence that Obama has palled around with terrorists for the past three years. That shows great judgment on Obama's part. :lol:

 

I don't think that there is a statute of limitations on bad judgment or questionable character. Palin never said that Obama is currently keeping company with his pal Bill Ayers. Doing so during a presidential campaign would show poor judgment and stupidity on Obama's part.

 

You obviously didn't read the rest of the article.

[Hoot Gibson]

You obviously didn't read the rest of the article.

Yes, I read the article a few hours ago. The difference is that I have read many other articles on this subject and I recognize a white wash job when I read one. FYI, Palin's use of the plural "terrorists" was not inadvertent. Maybe CNN did not read its own article, in which it explained that Bill Ayers' wife, Bernadine Dohrn, is also a non-repentant terrorist.

 

Obama and Ayers had a much closer relationship than Obama has acknowledged. Ayers and Dohrn were not just a couple of people who lived in the Obamas' neighborhood.

[Hoot Gibson]

Stanley Kurtz is the man whose FOIA filing opened the Chicago Annenberg Challenge records to public scrutiny over the objections of Obama supporters. It was his appearance on WGN that triggered a massive email, fax, and phone call campaign by the Obama machine to intimidate the station not to air the interview.

 

NYT's Ayers-Obama Whitewashh

Stanley Kurtz

 

As others have noted, today’s New York Times carries a story on the relationship between Barack Obama and unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist, Bill Ayers. The piece serves as a platform for the Obama campaign and Obama’s friends and allies. Obama’s spokesman and supporters’ names are named and their versions of events are presented in detail, with quotes. Yet the article makes no serious attempt to present the views of Obama critics who have worked to uncover the true nature of the relationship. That makes this piece irresponsible journalism, and an obvious effort by the former paper of record to protect Obama from the coming McCain onslaught.

 

The title of the article when it first appeared on the web last night was, "Obama Had Met Ayers, but the Two Are Not Close." That was quickly changed to, "Obama and the ‘60's Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths." Perhaps the first headline made the paper’s agenda a bit too obvious. Even so, the new title simply parrots the line of Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt that the two first met through an early "education project" and since have simply "encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood." Or, as New York Times reporter Scott Shane puts it at the head of his article, since an initial lunchtime meeting in 1995, "their paths have crossed sporadically...at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project (i.e. the Chicago Annenberg Challenge) and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors."

 

There is nothing "sporadic" about Barack Obama delivering hundreds of thousands of dollars over a period of many years to fund Bill Ayers’ radical education projects, not to mention many millions more to benefit Ayers’ radical education allies. We are talking about a substantial and lengthy working relationship here, one that does not depend on the quality of personal friendship or number of hours spent in the same room together (although the article greatly underestimates that as well).

[UKPat02]

Yes, I read the article a few hours ago. The difference is that I have read many other articles on this subject and I recognize a white wash job when I read one. FYI, Palin's use of the plural "terrorists" was not inadvertent. Maybe CNN did not read its own article, in which it explained that Bill Ayers' wife, Bernadine Dohrn, is also a non-repentant terrorist.

 

Obama and Ayers had a much closer relationship than Obama has acknowledged. Ayers and Dohrn were not just a couple of people who lived in the Obamas' neighborhood.

 

Did you recognize that is was a whitewash job, or did you pull a Joe Biden and just regurgitate what ol' Stan Kurtz told you?

 

Listen, I know and talk to a couple foreigners who are supporters of Hamas and Hizbollah. Does this mean I agree with them? No. Does this mean I support their beliefs? Of course not. Does it make me a terrorist by association? Not at all.

 

Once again McCain's campaign is sensing that time is running out so they're throwing everything (as evidenced by the plethora of anti-Obama threads started by both you, JD and RTS in recent days) against the wall and praying that something sticks.