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Pope Francis is asking that tonight at 9:00pm local, everyone, no matter where you are, no matter creed or religion, pause for a moment of prayer, reflection, or meditation for the healing of the world. The whole planet will be united in prayer.

 

Doesn't sound like a half bad plan.

 

I'm in!

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2,800+ new cases diagnosed today in the US alone. Those numbers are getting ready to take a very sharp spike.

 

I'd say it's too late for containment. At this point, all retirement communities, nursing homes, and some hospitals need to be completely isolated from this as best as possible.

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Regarding the Rogan podcast - which I thought was riveting - that featured infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm. Here are the takeaways...

 

This is just beginning. It will unfold for months and people don't get that. This transmits very easily through the air. Data shows it is infectious before you get sick, in fact, highly infectious. Best guess among experts with limited data, 10-15x worse in terms of fatalities and illnesses than the worst season flu we've ever seen. In terms of numbers, 96 million cases and over 480,000 deaths over next 3-7 months. THIS IS NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. Three weeks ago Italy was living life just fine, now the entire county is shut down and people are dying at an alarming rate.

 

To put this in modern terms, a physician in Milan Italy sent an email out that said they're deciding who they have to let die, staff isn't being screened because they need all hands on decks, everyone is dedicated to COVID patients, even if positive with symptoms, they have to work. Also, there is an alarming number of cases in the 40 something age range. We need to stop thinking this is an old persons disease. This is unfolding in Wuhan, in Italy and even here in Seattle, and it will continue to unfold throughout the world.

 

Yes, the majority that have died have been older and age is the primary risk factor, but there are other factors. For ex, smoking in China. The challenge we have is that's really only the Chinese data. Experts are worried that other risk factors will emerge in other parts of the world. For example, obesity in the US. It's just like smoking in how it can seriously effect health and create life threatening conditions. In the US, over 40% of citizens are obese. There is concern we're going to see very serious life threatening cases in the US because of a different set of risk factors.

 

Incubation period is FOUR days. And the virus effects people differently. For ex. an Uber driver could be sick, but not know it, and infect a passenger. That Uber drive could eventually show symptoms, recover, and be fine, while the passenger dies.

We have to get information out to the public, there is so much misinformation.

we have to get information out to the public. so much misinformation. This is going to be a long term thing. We're going to have 3-6 months that will be like this. This has unfolded just as we predicted. On 1/20, we said this would happen and no one paid attention. We predicted exactly when it would pop in the US, we were told we were wrong. When people are confronted with the actual information, people finally realize how serious this is and the need to be prepared.

 

Studies were conducted in Germany this week that followed a group of nine people exposed. In the first hours, when symptoms showed, we went in and sample their throats, blood, stool, urine, etc and found shockingly they had incredibly high levels of virus, almost 10,000 times as much as SARS. This is why we're concerned. People in public spaces are exposed, especially those over 55 with underlying health problems. Stay away from large public spaces.

 

As far as public health, we're not going to have a vaccine soon. We could close schools, but does that do more harm than good?

 

We aren't prepared at all. SARS/MERS were harbingers of things to come. We hear it and yet we don't get prepared. This this was predicted by many experts. 85% of all of the world's production of IV bags were made in plants in Puerto Rico. Hurricane Maria came through 18 months ago and destroyed the plants that manufactured these supplies. We've had a massive shortage of IV bags, yet we're still not prepared? Hopefully, this is a wake up call.

 

One of the things that has us most concerned as well, we've been studying for 18 months looking at critical drug shortages. There are 153 drugs people need right now when they are in severe emergency condition. 100 are generic. All are made offshore and, in large part in China and India. At this point, we already have a shortage. Now, the supply chain is down. If I came to you and said the DOD was going to outsource their munitions needs to China/India, there would be outrage. But, with this issue, we are beholden to China for these medications. It's ridiculous. Now, with the shutdown, we are at risk. Even the situation that's unfolded, its not about virus, it's about what the entire system is rigged up to be and what the virus does once it gets into it.

 

One week later....gulp.

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What should be done to businesses that refuse to close...such as the Bingo Hall in Pikeville that refuses to close?

 

Licenses for bingo halls across the board are being suspended according to the press conference I listened to earlier. So they can risk never getting one back follow the guidelines or worse.

 

I actually read the majority of the KRS statement issued by the Attorney Generals Office earlier today. And while some may not agree with it, it definitely showed that there are several legal statutes on the books for this type of thing. The type that albeit get passed in times of no uncertainty but are proving necessary right now.

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I read it, but that is the thing this is setting a precedent. At the end of the day the Swine Flu was still bad and lots of deaths. So even something not as bad as this, is probably going to cause people to want to be extra safe and lead to panic. It just is how things work, especially with social media. Especially if something new hits our country first and not another country before us? We had time to prepare for this and still didn’t prepare for this. So if something new comes, and literally know nothing about. It very well could cause people to want to take this drastic step, because as they say better safe than sorry.

 

Quarantine is nothing new. This has happened before in the past and there are even court cases that hold it up, that said I think the biggest issue for most of us is that on account of the vaccines and treatments out there this is the first real instance of it since 1918. This was quite common at a local level in the 19th century and before.

 

Make no mistake though if we suddenly stopped vaccinating en masse this would become the norm.

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China needs to focus on cleaning up their live animal markets. If they let those continue, we all have another China virus like this in the near future.

 

This.

If anybody has any doubt about China's responsibility in this watch this.

 

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China needs to focus on cleaning up their live animal markets. If they let those continue, we all have another China virus like this in the near future.

 

This.

If anybody has any doubt about China's responsibility in this watch this.

 

 

Agreed to an extent. But those conditions aren't anything new to China.

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Agreed to an extent. But those conditions aren't anything new to China.

 

 

Not only that but their refusal to abandon some of their superstitious treatment is infuriating because it leads to a ton of poaching of endangered species.

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