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To supplement this the KY Board of Pharmacy has issued the following guidance: https://pharmacy.ky.gov/Documents/Kentucky%20Board%20of%20Pharmacy%20COVID-19%20FAQs.pdf Pages 7-9 cover it, but essentially the doctor has to provide the diagnosis to fill the RX, the pharmacist has the right to use their professional judgement when it comes to filling the medications. They can refuse the fill if they feel it violates dispensing guidelines. More detail plus the Q&A is listed in the link on the pages noted.

The CDC decided to create its own test as opposed to taking the one offered by the WHO but it turned out the CDC one didn't produce consistent results. So they had to scrap it and start again. Not entirely sure why they decided against the WHO one, but we are where we are.

Not sure of exact numbers but I know many pharmacists are not happy about the proclamation of it as a treatment without clinical trials. Largely because of the number of patients that will go with out. That and I know a number of pharmacists I have spoken to have indicated that many doctors are calling in scripts for family (which is ethically questionable most of the time anyway) for Plaquenil and Zithromax to hoard it just in case they need it. I am hoping that it does prove effective long term, but the evidence seems anecdotal thus far. I do know many pharmacies that have been running out because of this though, which is very unfortunate for lupus patients.

No vaccine because this strain of the virus didn't make the jump from animal to human until last November. Then it was just a mystery illness until it was identified, then work can start on a vaccine but that takes time and trials.

Sigh

It had to mutate at least twice already to be transmissible between humans. Once to go from original host species to human and then again to eventual transfer from human to human. Even so from what I have read there have been no other mutations detected that I have found. It is worth noting that not all viruses mutate at the same rate. Bear in mind that smallpox has been fully eradicated outside of the lab and polio would be gone as well were it not for the Taliban Karens (antivaxxers) in Afghanistan.

A Covid-19 vaccine would likely be more effective since it doesn't seem to be mutating as rapidly as influenza does. That is one of the reasons why that vaccine is problematic, they are going after a moving target perpetually.

I honestly hope that guru is right and this is a complete overreaction and we did this all needlessly. The big concern with this disease is the the fact that since it came from an animal we don't have any natural immunity to it compared to the flu (which is still very deadly) also we have nothing resembling a vaccine or truly effective treatments short of supporting the body until it manages to fight it off. Also how many people who end up dying from the flu each year don't ever get the shot thinking "I don't need it." Something I probably ought to look into at some point in the future considering the number of times I have argued with people about the value of a flu shot. Also the rate of transmission with this one seems to be much higher than other the comparable diseases at the moment. The more people it infects the higher the chance that people with immunodeficiency or other serious health issues will catch it. As the only person in my house who was not born prematurely I would rather not see their systems put to the test.

My condolences to your 401K.

Indoor ranges are too pricey for me, i have to buy their ammo to shoot my rifles. Not gonna do that.

Personal loss is the only thing that will change their mind.

I had read it in a few places, here we go. Convincing Boomer Parents to Take the Coronavirus Seriously | The New Yorker The frustration millennials have with older people not taking coronavirus precautions seriously - ABC News Boomers Worry Least About COVID-19, Driving Millennial Children Mad - Rolling Stone That's just the first page of results on google. I had seen it a few other places and on social media before googling it.

I would say that plus the combination of many older people refusing to social distance plus the Gen Z kids thinking they are invincible and congregating in great numbers that the death toll would be higher there too. That would be my thoughts, especially given the condo and retirement communities down there that put them in relatively close contact with each other.

But you know, we were overreacting.

I remember that and I did not realize you put him up to it. :lol2:

Well the supply chain that keeps them stocked would need to keep up and running. There is probably little need for much of what a mall would supply as of now. Although I would say that if you go into full lockdown every business would have to justify staying open as opposed to justifying why they would need to close down. I think where we are in KY at the moment is probably a decent place.

When you say non-essential how do you define it, which stores specifically do you mean? Groceries, pharmacies, and gas stations are obviously going to fall into the essential category.

Not only that but their refusal to abandon some of their superstitious treatment is infuriating because it leads to a ton of poaching of endangered species.

WOW

Quarantine is nothing new. This has happened before in the past and there are even court cases that hold it up, that said I think the biggest issue for most of us is that on account of the vaccines and treatments out there this is the first real instance of it since 1918. This was quite common at a local level in the 19th century and before. Make no mistake though if we suddenly stopped vaccinating en masse this would become the norm.

You really need to read the report posted earlier. I think it outlines certain things that make this a different animal than that.

Italy had 475 die today, nearing 3000 there.

That is a good read for just about anyone right now.

I agree 100% that the odds are better. I also think that because our lives are more interconnected than ever before that people are going to be more willing to flaunt the recommendations.

My comparison is rate of contagion, I have repeatedly stated that this will not be nearly as deadly. The comparison has entirely to do with rate of transmission, which this looks to transfer at least twice as rapidly as the flu. My family is not directly at risk, but we have parents that we would rather protect. I mean for what it's worth I wouldn't care if people who aren't worried got sick and died if it weren't for the fact that they can spread it to others who may actually care. In the end I hope this whole thing ends up as an overreaction because I would rather keep the eventual death toll lower. If not, well I guess I will keep an eye on good real estate deals after it's over.