Should The Colonel Crazies' Treatment Of Inbounders Have To Change?

[mcpapa]

Write to the head of officials, Julian Tackett, Governor Beshear, Governor Elect Bevin and the Vatican. Stick these young hooligans in a sound proof glass bubble!

 

The nerve of those young punk kids!

 

Stay off my lawn!

 

And my bleachers!

 

​Sorry. Bad papa.

[BirdBrain]

No problem with this, provided it is not unsporting behavior. Just like everyone else, they paid their money...it is up to Bob Rowe and his staff to contain them, and they do.

 

I see some pretty good officials in those clips, so I believe if there was an issue, it would have been addressed. As long as the inbounder has sufficient ability to put the ball in play with no obstructions, play on...great fan base, makes the game better.

[silo11]

Also from the final score thread, in response to a comment about whether or not it happens elsewhere in high school/college/professional basketball:

 

The big difference I see between Duke and the Crazies is that Duke student cannot be on the floor when doing this.

I would be totally okay with it if students weren't allowed on the floor and had to stay one row up in the stands.

[lawildcat]

I'm sure they have been told where the line is and what will happen if it is crossed. I have no problems with it. It's a high school game and these are high school kids. Let them have their fun while supporting their school!

[The Professor]

Just because it's a tradition with the students at a school does not make it right. I don't believe refs would tolerate that kind of behavior in most regions. It's excessive and not in the best spirit and sportsmanship of the game.

That being said, I love watching CovCath's student cheering section when they're at the state tournament. It's obvious they're well organized and put much effort and practice into their cheers and chants. They're the most entertaining student cheering section that I've ever seen at the state tournament and I've been attending since the mid 1970s.

But the games at Rupp have a rail and some distance between the inbound line and the fans and this type of action is not an issue.

[Samcro]

I love the fact that the students come out and are so supportive of their team. You don't see that as much as in days past. I wish more schools had such support.

 

That being said, I think their actions on inbounds plays is excessive. I don't believe any fans should be allowed to, in effect, surround the player inbounding the ball as they do.

 

I am not an official, and I can't say whether it is legal. But even if it is legal, I believe it goes beyond good sportsmanship. Go crazy screaming from your seats, yes. But don't leave your seats to try to intimidate a high school basketball player.

 

These are high school kids doing the "intimidating". Show me an adult screaming at a high school kid in any of those pictures. We can debate player safety issues, but the comment about initimidating a high school player holds no water.

[Smallhoops]

These are high school kids doing the "intimidating". Show me an adult screaming at a high school kid in any of those pictures. We can debate player safety issues, but the comment about initimidating a high school player holds no water.

 

I believe that a group of 20-30 high school students surrounding, pointing at and yelling at a single player inbounding the ball can be intimidating. I guess you and I just disagree on that point.

[Samcro]

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I believe that a group of 20-30 high school students surrounding, pointing at and yelling at a single player inbounding the ball can be intimidating. I guess you and I just disagree on that point.

That's fair. I don't disagree that it can be an intimidating situation. However, so could screaming and yelling behind a basket on foul shots.

 

I will also reiterate that first and foremost, player safety is critical. As long as that is maintained, I think high school students should be aloud to try to "get in the head" of the opposition.

[4luvofthegame]

Maybe we should give the guy holding them back a quiet please sign like you see at golf tournaments.

[TAC]

I'm OK with it, though they should be in the stands. Given the depth the in bounder is allowed to drop back to, if one did and got bumped by a kid, should it be ruled a T if the kids are not in the stands?

It's better than when the Augusta cheerleader tried to swat the ball out of the Mason's in bounders hands a couple of year ago in the district.

[wheelhouse]

To be honest, the notion of whether or not this version of school spirit breaks some rules or entertains some attendees isn't my biggest concern. I'm disturbed at more of a philosophical level -- or, as mushy as it sounds, even a spiritual level -- by these types of behaviors. Cheering for your own team constitutes positive energy; deriding your opponent or the officials constitutes negative energy. Why not put all the costuming, choreography, and rhetoric to positive rather than negative use?

[Samcro]

A little off topic, but the Crazies contribute to a great atmosphere at home and often on the road. The atmosphere at last week's CCH/Cooper game was spectacular. I find that in many cases, the Crazies motivate the opposing student section to "up" their game. When the big Cooper student fan ripped off his shirt ala the designated "Sumo Crazy", I lost it. That was awesome. Again, off topic I know, but the Crazies really help make the games fun. Kudos to the Cooper kids too - they were fantastic.

[Samcro]

I'm OK with it, though they should be in the stands. Given the depth the in bounder is allowed to drop back to, if one did and got bumped by a kid, should it be ruled a T if the kids are not in the stands?

It's better than when the Augusta cheerleader tried to swat the ball out of the Mason's in bounders hands a couple of year ago in the district.

If a student/fan bumps a player, that should absolutely be a T (IMO) and that student/fan should be escorted out of the gym. I would also suspect that if it was a CCH student, Mr. Rowe would have some additional discipline in store.

[justsayin]

No problem with this, provided it is not unsporting behavior. Just like everyone else, they paid their money...it is up to Bob Rowe and his staff to contain them, and they do.

 

I see some pretty good officials in those clips, so I believe if there was an issue, it would have been addressed. As long as the inbounder has sufficient ability to put the ball in play with no obstructions, play on...great fan base, makes the game better.

 

I asked in the CovCath/Trinity thread, and none of our BGP officials responded .. what is the call if the inbounder is interfered with, either intentionally, or unintentionally? Seems there should be some penalty.

[75center]

These are high school kids doing the "intimidating". Show me an adult screaming at a high school kid in any of those pictures. We can debate player safety issues, but the comment about initimidating a high school player holds no water.

 

It actually looks like in every picture there is an adult right there keeping watch/control of the situation, which is a great idea.

 

I have no problem with it.