Celebrations Can Negate TDs Next Season

[Alabama Larry]

What Leather said...After he went to the Pros Ozzie Newsome on his first catch for a TD he spiked the ball hard in the endzone, after he did it he felt weird, and later that nite called Coach Bryant and told him he "was sorry for spiking the ball, and would never do it again". "Act like you have been there before." I don't care for the new rule either.

[Plato]

Just what the game needs - subjective rules that are difficult/impossible to enforce consistently.

[woodsrider]

Just what the game needs - subjective rules that are difficult/impossible to enforce consistently.

 

 

This is my only problem with the rule. There is too much judgement involved. The best example was the K.ST player who saluted the crowd and was flagged. I would guarantee if 10 different players did that in 10 different games it would get called 1.

[2 Humped Camel]

This rule is awful and will effect the outcome of a game which it shouldn't.

[Bengals>Steelers]

#1 This isn't even that big of an a issue in college

 

#2 This is the dumbest thing I've seen in a long time. You would think the NCAA would have other things to worry about.

 

#3 I hate the thought process "Act like you've been there before". Maybe some people haven't been there before. As long as you don't do anything offensive or crazy, what's it hurt to have some fun and give guys 5-10 seconds. Fans pay to see entertainment and celebrations should be apart of that. This isn't the 1960s anymore.

[gchs_uk9]

I don't see how running parallel to the goal line can be a penalty. That's your right.

 

Not only a right, but often times a strategy.

 

I know it wasn't college, but I'm pretty sure DeSean Jackson was making sure the clock ran out against the Giants when he did it. I know Brandon Stokely was running time off the clock when he did it for Denver against Cincinnati year before last.

[tcjkbt]

Good rule. If you don't want to get penalized, don't make a "taunting gesture." How hard is that? If it is a valid stategem to run out the clock by running parallel to the goal line, then I expect that not to be considered "taunting." Thus, no penalty. You can celebrate without taunting. It's kind of like pornography: You know it when you see it,.

Edited January 19, 2011 by tcjkbt

[gchs_uk9]

It's kind of like pornography: You know it when you see it,.

 

But some people might have less tolerance for what they view as pornography. By the same token, some referees might have less tolerance for taunting than others. If a kid in Game A does something and is flagged while the kid in Game B does the same thing and isn't flagged, then what was the right call? Did we "know it when we saw it?" Did the call cost a team a win in Game A (and maybe a championship) while a no call allowed the Game B winner to stay perfect? It's not a bad theory and I'm not in favor of taunting, but I believe rules like this can be too open and subjective, which can lead to further problems on down the line.

[coldweatherfan]

Good rule. If you don't want to get penalized, don't make a "taunting gesture." How hard is that? If it is a valid stategem to run out the clock by running parallel to the goal line, then I expect that not to be considered "taunting." Thus, no penalty. You can celebrate without taunting. It's kind of like pornography: You know it when you see it,.

 

Define "taunting gesture"

[Watusi]

I like the rule as it is proposed, even though it is subjective.

 

It is only going to apply to celebrations and unsportsmanlike maneuvers that happen BEFORE a TD is scored, right? If so, I'm fine with it. If you are hot-dogging it 15 yards before you even reach the end zone, that is unsportsmanlike. If it occurs during the play, then I see no reason why that shouldn't be considered a live ball foul, just like holding or clipping.

 

The way I read it, post TD celebrations, taunting, etc. will still be a dead ball penalty assessed on the XP or Kickoff, and I think that is fair.

[tcjkbt]

Many rulings by officials involve personal judgment and subjectivity, e. g., pass interference, holding, blocking in the back, roughing/running into the punter, etc. This is just one more. It is incumbent on the coaching staff to teach their kids not to do this. How hard is it? Is taunting already a foul? If so, this just tweaks it.

[CatsCatsCats]

Garbage rule.

[leatherneck]

#1 This isn't even that big of an a issue in college

 

#2 This is the dumbest thing I've seen in a long time. You would think the NCAA would have other things to worry about.

 

#3 I hate the thought process "Act like you've been there before". Maybe some people haven't been there before. As long as you don't do anything offensive or crazy, what's it hurt to have some fun and give guys 5-10 seconds. Fans pay to see entertainment and celebrations should be apart of that. This isn't the 1960s anymore.

 

I respect your opinion; then again you think Bengals>Steelers also.

[swamprat]

I like the rule as it is proposed, even though it is subjective.

 

It is only going to apply to celebrations and unsportsmanlike maneuvers that happen BEFORE a TD is scored, right? If so, I'm fine with it. If you are hot-dogging it 15 yards before you even reach the end zone, that is unsportsmanlike. If it occurs during the play, then I see no reason why that shouldn't be considered a live ball foul, just like holding or clipping.

 

The way I read it, post TD celebrations, taunting, etc. will still be a dead ball penalty assessed on the XP or Kickoff, and I think that is fair.

That the way it reads.

 

Unsportsmanlike Conduct Fouls

EFFECTIVE IN 2011 (RULE CHANGE)

 

Following up on the Statement on Sportsmanship adopted last year, the committee approved by unanimous vote the following rule change which will take effect in 2011:

 

A live-ball foul for unsportsmanlike conduct will be treated as any other live-ball foul, rather than being administered as a dead-ball foul. When in question it is a dead-ball foul. In 2010 such fouls will continue to be treated as dead-ball fouls.

 

Example 1: A ball carrier is in the open field racing for the goal line. At the opponent’s 10-yard line he turns, makes a taunting gesture to his opponents pursuing him and then scores an apparent touchdown.

 

RULING IN 2011: Live-ball foul for unsportsmanlike conduct. Fifteen-yard penalty from the spot of the foul and the score is negated. First and 10 at the 25-yard line. (Under current rules the touchdown counts and the penalty is enforced on the try or the kickoff.)

 

Example 2: Third and seven at the defensive team’s 35-yard line. A defensive player is lined up in the neutral zone at the snap. The quarterback completes a pass to the tight end who races toward the end zone. At the 10-yard line he turns and taunts the players pursuing him and then crosses the goal line.

 

RULING IN 2011. Offside against the defense and unsportsmanlike conduct by the offense. The fouls offset and the down is repeated. No score. Third and seven at the 35-yard line. (Under current rules the offside penalty is declined by rule, the touchdown counts, and the penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct is enforced on the try or the kickoff.)

 

Example 3: After scoring a touchdown the ball carrier punts the ball into the stands. RULING: Dead-ball foul for unsportsmanlike conduct. The touchdown counts. The 15-yard penalty is

enforced on either the try or on the succeeding kickoff, at the option of the defensive team. (No change from the current rule)

 

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[Bengals>Steelers]

I respect your opinion; then again you think Bengals>Steelers also.

 

haha well i didnt say what they were better at