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Will there ever be another 30 game winner in MLB?


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I can't see it happening, with the 4-5 man rotations and pitching on the road, in certain ballparks.


Innings totals are not around 300 anymore and the middle relief corps, must hold just about every single lead, then let the closer finish.


It would be astounding but not sure it will ever be done. I'll go one step further and say 20, is a tremendous accomplishment and 23-25 would be outstanding.

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I don't think so, a 25 game winner would be a rare occurance due to all the 5 man rotations, specialized relief pitching, etc.. Guys don't pitch as often and do not go as long as they used to (most may get pulled before the team has chance to go ahead and/or comeback with the lead), too much middle relief imo.

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