Pitino vs. Smith UK Stats

[Eagle 8]

Here's the updated stats comparing Rick and Tubby's coaching carreers at UK.....just for discussion purposes only.

 

Percentage of games ranked in top 5:

Tubby 16%

Pitino 59% (53% if you include probation year).

 

Number of games in top 5:

Tubby in 326 games ranked 54 games in top 5

Pitino in 269 games ranked 142 games in top 5

 

Number of Home losses:

Tubby 18 (about to add a whole lot more)

Pitino 5 (7 if you include probation year).

 

10+ loss seasons:

Tubby 4 (in 7 years - soon to be 5 in 8 ).

Pitino 0 (1 if you include the probation year).

 

Average number of losses per year:

Tubby 7.9 (about to push that up over 8 )

Pitino 4.8 (throwing out the 1st year)

 

Games played as #1 ranking: Pitino 10 Tubby 4

Games played as #2 ranking: Pitino 44 Tubby 14

Games played as #3 ranking: Pitino 33 Tubby 10

Games played as #4 ranking: Pitino 18 Tubby 15

Games played as #5 ranking: Pitino 37 Tubby 11

 

Total games with top 5 ranking: Pitino 142 Tubby 54

 

Team Turmoils:

Tubby 2

Pitino 0

 

Transfers out of the Program:

Tubby 14 (with many more trying to)

Pitino 7

 

NBA 1st round draft picks:

Tubby 2

Pitino 10

 

Rick Pitino’s 1st year 14-14 probation team averaged more than 10 ppg than ANY Tubby Smith team except 2. It averaged 8 more than those two.

 

Rick Pitino - Points per Game

 

1989-90 88.82

1990-91 85.89

1991-92 85.72

1992-93 87.50

1993-94 86.88

1994-95 87.39

1995-96 91.44

1996-97 83.13

 

Tubby Smith takes over

 

1997-98 80.08

1998-99 75.41

1999-00 69.09

2000-01 79.79

2001-02 76.88

2002-03 77.28

2003-04 73.91

2004-05 73.62

2005-06 70.77

2006-07 72.32

 

Pitino 5 Final Fours (3 at Kentucky)

Tubby 1 Final Four (never been to a FF with his own players in his career)

 

Pitino 2 Championship games at Kentucky

Tubby 1 (none with players he recruited)

 

Pitino 22-5 (.783) in the NCAA tournament at Kentucky

Tubby 23-8 (.663)

 

Pitino beat 11 teams seeded 5th or higher in 6 NCAA Tournaments.

Tubby has beaten 4 teams seeded 5th or higher in 9 NCAA Tournaments, and just one since his first season at Kentucky.

[Eagle'01]

Wow! I didn't realize Pitino had such better numbers at UK than Tubby has had. Very Interesting. :sssh:

[bugatti]

And it is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friends....

[Original Rookie]

And it is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friends....

Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was...

[HHSDad]

Team Turmoils:

Tubby 2

Pitino 0

 

Transfers out of the Program:

Tubby 14 (with many more trying to)

Pitino 7

 

Those for me are the two most telling stats.

[FBALL]

Let it go.

[futurecoach]

Here's the updated stats comparing Rick and Tubby's coaching carreers at UK.....just for discussion purposes only.

 

Percentage of games ranked in top 5:

Tubby 16%

Pitino 59% (53% if you include probation year).

 

Number of games in top 5:

Tubby in 326 games ranked 54 games in top 5

Pitino in 269 games ranked 142 games in top 5

 

Number of Home losses:

Tubby 18 (about to add a whole lot more)

Pitino 5 (7 if you include probation year).

 

10+ loss seasons:

Tubby 4 (in 7 years - soon to be 5 in 8 ).

Pitino 0 (1 if you include the probation year).

 

Average number of losses per year:

Tubby 7.9 (about to push that up over 8 )

Pitino 4.8 (throwing out the 1st year)

 

Games played as #1 ranking: Pitino 10 Tubby 4

Games played as #2 ranking: Pitino 44 Tubby 14

Games played as #3 ranking: Pitino 33 Tubby 10

Games played as #4 ranking: Pitino 18 Tubby 15

Games played as #5 ranking: Pitino 37 Tubby 11

 

Total games with top 5 ranking: Pitino 142 Tubby 54

 

Team Turmoils:

Tubby 2

Pitino 0

 

Transfers out of the Program:

Tubby 14 (with many more trying to)

Pitino 7

 

NBA 1st round draft picks:

Tubby 2

Pitino 10

 

Rick Pitino’s 1st year 14-14 probation team averaged more than 10 ppg than ANY Tubby Smith team except 2. It averaged 8 more than those two.

 

Rick Pitino - Points per Game

 

1989-90 88.82

1990-91 85.89

1991-92 85.72

1992-93 87.50

1993-94 86.88

1994-95 87.39

1995-96 91.44

1996-97 83.13

 

Tubby Smith takes over

 

1997-98 80.08

1998-99 75.41

1999-00 69.09

2000-01 79.79

2001-02 76.88

2002-03 77.28

2003-04 73.91

2004-05 73.62

2005-06 70.77

2006-07 72.32

 

Pitino 5 Final Fours (3 at Kentucky)

Tubby 1 Final Four (never been to a FF with his own players in his career)

 

Pitino 2 Championship games at Kentucky

Tubby 1 (none with players he recruited)

 

Pitino 22-5 (.783) in the NCAA tournament at Kentucky

Tubby 23-8 (.663)

 

Pitino beat 11 teams seeded 5th or higher in 6 NCAA Tournaments.

Tubby has beaten 4 teams seeded 5th or higher in 9 NCAA Tournaments, and just one since his first season at Kentucky.

 

Wow this thread serves absolutely no purpose whats so ever. I really do not understand what the point of this is. I think pretty much everyone already knows this stuff, and nobody questions how great Pitino was when he was here. Most of the top coaches in the nation wouldn't compete with the numbers that Pitino had here during his run at UK. So it is just not Tubby that doesn't do that well against those Pitino stats, most coaches wouldn't have done that well against those stats of Pitino when he was here. Pitino however would not have kept us up at that pace the whole time, because we were on the peak of the mountain and there was only one way to go down from there, and not to mention the whole landscape of college basketball has changed alot since his run here at UK. And I am not going to go into all of that right now because it would make my post alot longer, but if you would want me to I gladly will...Once again this thread is pretty much pointless, because most people already know all of this stuff...

[Son of Bear]

Some things that stick out to me:

 

1) 1st round draft picks. Rick was bringing in much better talent then Tubby is.

 

2) Home losses. The Cats really did "protect this house" under Rick.

 

3) Beating top notch teams in the NCAA tourney. The stat about only beating a #5 or better once since 98 is shocking.

 

This all boils down to recruiting IMO. Both are great coaches but Rick brought in better players than Tubby, thus allowing him to compete with the big dogs in the big games.

[TubbyCAT]

So w/your logic Eagle 8 we shouldn't count Roy William's championship at UNC b/c he didn't recruit any of those players either? Come on that is silly!!!

 

I am not sure what the Games Played at a Certain ranking proves to be honest! How does that fit into all of this and how good a coach is? So if Bobby Knight doesn't coach a certain number of games having his team ranked at top-5 spot then he can't coach?

[ladiesbballcoach]

If you want Rick as your coach, root for Louisville. I can tell you there is about 18% of the fans that the other 82% would have no problem seeing you wear red.

[5wide]

Team Turmoils:

Tubby 2

Pitino 0

 

Transfers out of the Program:

Tubby 14 (with many more trying to)

Pitino 7

 

Those for me are the two most telling stats.

 

You think they're related? :sssh:

[Hangman]

Does anybody remember that time that Kentucky fired Rick Pitino because they would rather have Tubby Smith?

 

Oh wait... I don't either... Pitino quit! Live with it.

[TubbyCAT]

Coach Pitino jumped ship for what he thought was greener pastures, poor pitiful Ricky P!!!

[hardball]

I hate Pitino/Tubby comparisons. The game is different today, just ask Pitino (the same guy that missed the tourney last year and is borderline this year).

 

Here's another silly comparison to help lend some perspective: Pitchers were better in the 1980's than they are today because they gave up fewer runs and home runs then. We all know better than that, don't we?

 

Maybe Pitino will come back and UK can play in the NIT...

[02Ram54]

If you want Rick as your coach, root for Louisville. I can tell you there is about 18% of the fans that the other 82% would have no problem seeing you wear red.

Don't try to pawn them off on us!