A Stupid Idea?

[Zoot Soup]

So what's the acceptable distance for a mosque near Ground Zero? Obviously two blocks is too close. Is 3 far enough away? Who sets this number? Can he be influenced?

[crazy8s]

The good and tolerant Muslims here in America should understand the feelings of those harmed on 9/11 and not rub more salt in the wounds of the families involved... Muslims I've spoken with think it's a bad idea...

 

I agree, to me it is pure common decency and respect to the all the familiies that lost loved ones. It reminds me of going to Pearl Harbor, if you have ever been, there is an eery feeling, very solemn when you think about what happened there. What gets me is there are always many indiviiduals of Japenese decent, speaking rapid Japanese I think, which I don't claim to know exactly what they are saying , but they are laughing, smiling, and posing for pictures. Kind of like they are proud of what they did- our big triumph over the evil empire of America while the Americans are quietly looking around, not saying a word. This may not make sense but it is a very strange experience I just don't see anything positive that will come from this and wonder why they would think it would be viewed in a positive light- unless that was there original intention.

[CatsCatsCats]

I don't see the putting a mosque beside Ground Zero as being anymore offensive than the people who try to sell you junk there. You can't even walk around there and try to think about or reflect what 9/11 meant to this country without someone trying to see you a fake Gucci wallet or a hot copy of a DVD.

[True blue (and gold)]

I agree, to me it is pure common decency and respect to the all the familiies that lost loved ones. It reminds me of going to Pearl Harbor, if you have ever been, there is an eery feeling, very solemn when you think about what happened there. What gets me is there are always many indiviiduals of Japenese decent, speaking rapid Japanese I think, which I don't claim to know exactly what they are saying , but they are laughing, smiling, and posing for pictures. Kind of like they are proud of what they did- our big triumph over the evil empire of America while the Americans are quietly looking around, not saying a word. This may not make sense but it is a very strange experience I just don't see anything positive that will come from this and wonder why they would think it would be viewed in a positive light- unless that was there original intention.

 

Wow...you have no idea what these people are saying, yet you think the worst of them? Why is that?

 

Just for the record, the Japanese submarine captain that was responsible for the sinking of the USS Indianapolis testified on behalf of Captain McVay, who ended up being the only captain from WWII that would be court-martialed for the sinking of a Navy ship. The Japanese captain defended McVay and the two became friends in future years.

 

Perhaps we should take a lesson from these once-sworn enemies and let the old prejudices pass.

Edited July 22, 2010 by True blue (and gold)

[Zoot Soup]

I agree, to me it is pure common decency and respect to the all the familiies that lost loved ones. It reminds me of going to Pearl Harbor, if you have ever been, there is an eery feeling, very solemn when you think about what happened there. What gets me is there are always many indiviiduals of Japenese decent, speaking rapid Japanese I think, which I don't claim to know exactly what they are saying , but they are laughing, smiling, and posing for pictures. Kind of like they are proud of what they did- our big triumph over the evil empire of America while the Americans are quietly looking around, not saying a word. This may not make sense but it is a very strange experience I just don't see anything positive that will come from this and wonder why they would think it would be viewed in a positive light- unless that was there original intention.

 

I mean, out of respect of the 9/11 families we should probably round all Muslims up and put them in internment camps like we did the Japanese, right?

[marvel]

The sole reason I am against this project is not because its muslim's that want to build the mosque but the man who is leading the project, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and if you try and defend him you are extremely naive and disgusting. He has a radical agenda along with the ideology he shares with the radical muslim's. He refuses to to classify hamas as a terroristic group, which admit that they will not stop their jihad movement until the liberation of Jerusalem. He wanted to name the mosque the "Cordoba House" which references with the spanish capital where muslim conquerors vanquished spanish catholics in the 8th century, but hey he probably just thought the name cordoba was very pretty name. no symbolic meaning or anything.

[Zoot Soup]

The sole reason I am against this project is not because its muslim's that want to build the mosque but the man who is leading the project, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and if you try and defend him you are extremely naive and disgusting. He has a radical agenda along with the ideology he shares with the radical muslim's. He refuses to to classify hamas as a terroristic group, which admit that they will not stop their jihad movement until the liberation of Jerusalem. He wanted to name the mosque the "Cordoba House" which references with the spanish capital where muslim conquerors vanquished spanish catholics in the 8th century, but hey he probably just thought the name cordoba was very pretty name. no symbolic meaning or anything.

 

I'd love some examples of his "radical agenda". Was it when he said "Fanaticism and terrorism have no place in Islam."?

[Zoot Soup]

And you know the Muslims pushed the Visigoths out of Cordoba, right? Not the Spanish Catholics? The Visigoths were the ones that pushed out the Romans.

[gchs_uk9]

Just a question to ponder: How many Christian denominations would like to place a church in locations that have been bombed in Afghanistan and/or Iraq?

[Run To State]

Just a question to ponder: How many Christian denominations would like to place a church in locations that have been bombed in Afghanistan and/or Iraq?

A better question to ponder: How many of them would be allowed to?

[westsider]

A better question to ponder: How many of them would be allowed to?

That is what sets this country apart from the rest ... we allow freedom of religious expression, even if it's one we don't particularly like.

[True blue (and gold)]

The sole reason I am against this project is not because its muslim's that want to build the mosque but the man who is leading the project, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and if you try and defend him you are extremely naive and disgusting. He has a radical agenda along with the ideology he shares with the radical muslim's. He refuses to to classify hamas as a terroristic group, which admit that they will not stop their jihad movement until the liberation of Jerusalem. He wanted to name the mosque the "Cordoba House" which references with the spanish capital where muslim conquerors vanquished spanish catholics in the 8th century, but hey he probably just thought the name cordoba was very pretty name. no symbolic meaning or anything.

 

I guess that this baptist preacher is naive and disgusting.

 

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/c_welton_gaddy/2010/07/great_irony_in_outcry_over_ground_zero_mosque.html

 

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the spiritual leader of Masjid Al-Farah mosque in lower Manhattan, has gained a reputation in New York for his interfaith work and his progressive practice of Islam. Together with his wife Daisy Khan, Imam Feisal envisioned devotees to Islam sharing space with other communities to enjoy arts, culture and dialogue. Inspired by the struggle of other religious communities seeking acceptance in America, they set out to establish Cordoba House, named for the Spanish city where Muslims, Jews, and Christians together created one of the most fertile and creative civilizations in the world.

[marvel]

I'd love some examples of his "radical agenda". Was it when he said "Fanaticism and terrorism have no place in Islam."?

 

well one might be sharia law...which he feels very strongly about.

[marvel]

I'd love some examples of his "radical agenda". Was it when he said "Fanaticism and terrorism have no place in Islam."?

 

http://www.analyst-network.com/article.php?art_id=3453

[Zoot Soup]

http://www.analyst-network.com/article.php?art_id=3453

 

Ok, my advice would be to take 15 minutes, actually read that, and then give me specific examples of HIS radical agenda. Not the alleged agendas of his acquaintences.

 

That article is 1. poorly written 2. uses dubious examples and 3. takes quotes out of context. I don't know anything about this guy and I am not whole-heartedly defending him, but after 5 minutes of Googling seems your sweeping statements about him aren't based on much.