2023-2024 Football Realignment

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

1 hour ago, gchs_uk9 said:

From the outside, it has always seemed like something of an unwritten agreement that they would stay together. I could certainly see Covington Catholic choosing to move up to 5A.

I definitely wouldn't count on it.

[DragonFire]

1 minute ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

I definitely wouldn't count on it.

Sounds like I better hope for three other teams to ask to move up then, because if CovCath stays down, I imagine Highlands would take the opportunity to move down as well if given the chance. 
 

This stinks. 

[TimeWillTell]

What are the chances of two 5-A teams requesting to playing up in 6-A ?

[16thBBall Fan]

47 minutes ago, Quiet_Storm11 said:

Bye bye Broncos. Y’all boys have fun

I'm sure they will still be willing to play Scott Co. each season. 😃

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

29 minutes ago, DragonFire said:

Sounds like I better hope for three other teams to ask to move up then, because if CovCath stays down, I imagine Highlands would take the opportunity to move down as well if given the chance. 

This stinks. 

I really don't expect Cov Cath to move up to 5A. We're 14th out of 39 schools when it comes to enrollment in 4A. Plus, well, let's just say that word around town is that requesting to play up in class is not in the plans.

I'm looking at the 13 teams above us in 4A enrollment, and I don't really see a single one that makes me think they really have much, if any, reason to play up in 5A. Harlan County is offered first swing at moving down in classification if there's a 4A team that requests to move up to 5A. I think Harlan County would more than likely take the opportunity to move back down to 4A for the next alignment were they offered it. Assuming Harlan County will, in fact, move down if offered the chance, that means in order for Highlands to move down to 4A, there will have to be two 4A teams request to move up in classification. I honestly don't know if I can see two teams in 4A showing interest in moving up, but I could always be wrong.

[Calico Jack]

I don’t see ANY 3A schools right now that would want to play up. Anybody else think I’m crazy on that?  Granted you have Central that moved back down to there, CAL as well as LexCath and still have Bardstown.  Other than that, though? Talk about a level playing field for the most part to give you a chance at at least playing in a region final.    Franklin-Simpson in there as well.      
 

I don’t know though, all 6 classes, I think this one right here is without question the place to be to give yourself and your program a little hope for the most part. 

[Nuke LaLoosh]

4 minutes ago, Calico Jack said:

I don’t see ANY 3A schools right now that would want to play up. Anybody else think I’m crazy on that?  Granted you have Central that moved back down to there, CAL as well as LexCath and still have Bardstown.  Other than that, though? Talk about a level playing field for the most part to give you a chance at at least playing in a region final.    Franklin-Simpson in there as well.      
 

I don’t know though, all 6 classes, I think this one right here is without question the place to be to give yourself and your program a little hope for the most part. 

Louisville Central drops to 3A as well

[Calico Jack]

1 minute ago, Nuke LaLoosh said:

Louisville Central drops to 3A as well

Right. I put them in there.  Even still though, when you match up the districts geographically.   Outside of potentially that one which could include them, CAL, Bardstown and DeSales is bound to bounce back, I don’t see a single potential district there where you don’t look at it from a stand point (outside of also who is with LexCath) where you aren’t thinking that “We can win this thing or at worst compete each year for the 2 seed and host a playoff game”.

Talking about a class now that while they gained Lou Central and LexCath, they lost Belfry, Tilghman, Glasgow, Taylor County and Etown which have obviously accounted for several state titles (only Belfry), final appearances (Tilghman and Etown) and/or region titles (even appearances) in this last go round and before in the previous ones (Glasgow and Taylor).

[Calico Jack]

47 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

I definitely wouldn't count on it.

Agreed.  I’d stay right where they are.  That’s going to shake out really nice for them

[DragonFire]

21 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

I really don't expect Cov Cath to move up to 5A. We're 14th out of 39 schools when it comes to enrollment in 4A. Plus, well, let's just say that word around town is that requesting to play up in class is not in the plans.

I'm looking at the 13 teams above us in 4A enrollment, and I don't really see a single one that makes me think they really have much, if any, reason to play up in 5A. Harlan County is offered first swing at moving down in classification if there's a 4A team that requests to move up to 5A. I think Harlan County would more than likely take the opportunity to move back down to 4A for the next alignment were they offered it. Assuming Harlan County will, in fact, move down if offered the chance, that means in order for Highlands to move down to 4A, there will have to be two 4A teams request to move up in classification. I honestly don't know if I can see two teams in 4A showing interest in moving up, but I could always be wrong.

NONE of that is the feel-good reassurance I need that everything will work out for Warren Central! 😜

[Nuke LaLoosh]

1 minute ago, Calico Jack said:

Right. I put them in there.  Even still though, when you match up the districts geographically.   Outside of potentially that one which could include them, CAL, Bardstown and DeSales is bound to bounce back, I don’t see a single potential district there where you don’t look at it from a stand point (outside of also who is with LexCath) where you aren’t thinking that “We can win this thing or at worst compete each year for the 2 seed and host a playoff game”.

Talking about a class now that while they gained Lou Central and LexCath, they lost Belfry, Tilghman, Glasgow, Taylor County and Etown which have obviously accounted for several state titles (only Belfry), final appearances (Tilghman and Etown) and/or region titles (even appearances) in this last go round and before in the previous ones (Glasgow and Taylor).

Plus Ashland and Mason County who played in the semis this year.  Definitely a big shake up for 3A.  Districts will look a lot different I believe except for maybe district 1 who loses Paducah Tilghman, but will probably gain Hopkins Co Central.

[Calico Jack]

4 minutes ago, Nuke LaLoosh said:

Plus Ashland and Mason County who played in the semis this year.  Definitely a big shake up for 3A.  Districts will look a lot different I believe except for maybe district 1 who loses Paducah Tilghman, but will probably gain Hopkins Co Central.

Right you are, along with Butler County.

I could see D1 and D2 both being a 5 and 6 team district, respectively.

District 1:

Union Co, Trigg Co, Webster Co, Hopkins Co Central and Butler Co

District 2:

Franklin Simpson, Hart Co, Edmonson Co, Adair Co, Larue Co and Marion Co

Those schools aren’t going to choose to play up and then get thrown in the mix with a potential district/region w  Tilghman, Logan and Hoptown. 

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

33 minutes ago, TimeWillTell said:

What are the chances of two 5-A teams requesting to playing up in 6-A ?

12 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

I'm looking at the 13 teams above us in 4A enrollment, and I don't really see a single one that makes me think they really have much, if any, reason to play up in 5A.

4 minutes ago, Calico Jack said:

I don’t see ANY 3A schools right now that would want to play up. Anybody else think I’m crazy on that?

For what it's worth, there were 7 teams last time that opted to move up in classification.

• 1A to 2A - Trimble County
• 3A to 4A - Boyle County, Central
• 4A to 5A - East Jessamine, Highlands, Western
• 5A to 6A - Barren County

Trimble is once again shown currently as a 1A program in this initial enrollment-based release. They could possibly petition to move up to 2A again for this alignment.

Boyle County is currently shown about dead center in 4A enrollment now, so they will presumably be staying put in 4A.

Central is currently shown as the 8th-largest out of 39 schools in 3A in this initial enrollment-based release. They could possibly petition to move up to 4A again for this alignment.

East Jessamine looks to currently be squarely positioned in 5A without likelihood of moving up or down.

Highlands is currently shown as the 2nd-smallest of the 40 schools in 5A. If two 4A teams request to play up in class, Highlands could move down to 5A. I think Highlands would move down to 5A if given the opportunity, but I'm doubtful they will be given the opportunity to move down.

Western is currently shown as the 22nd-largest out of 39 schools in 4A. In the last realignment, they were the 5th-smallest school in 4A enrollment yet they still opted to petition and play up in 5A in order to travel less in district games. In this release of things, Doss has moved down from 5A to 4A, North Oldham is in 4A, Valley is in 4A, and Shelby County is in 4A. I'm not sure they have much impetus to move up to 5A with all of those local teams in their immediate surrounding vicinity.

Barren County is currently shown as 6th-largest of the 40 schools in 5A. In the last realignment, they were the 20th-largest out of 39 schools in 5A and opted to petition to play up in 6A in order to travel less in district games. I would somewhat expect to see them do the same thing in this realignment.

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

Football Enrollments - Reclassification for 2023-2026 | KHSAA.org

I think I've got all the changes from class to class covered here. (Don't string me up if I missed anything, but let me know if you see a mistake and I'll get it changed.)

This only pertains to changes shown in the initial release of the reclassification numbers for 2023-2026, and is by no means final. If the KHSAA follows suit from the last realignment go-around, this is released, and then the BOC will meet in January/February and will present a draft of the actual realignment, giving each team a district and so on. It appears that the KHSAA is intending on releasing their initial draft of the realignment at their BOC meeting on January 18, 2023.

Once the initial draft is released, the schools have the opportunity to review and petition for any changes they may want to try to make happen, the BOC takes those petitions into consideration, reshuffles, and releases a final approved version of the 2023-2026 alignment around April/May.

WEB DuBois is on schedule to join into district play for the fall 2024 season, and St. Henry is scheduled to come on board in fall 2025. Both programs will be competing in 2A.

Knott County Central, Caverna, Bellevue and Fulton County are going to be back in the alignment, while Phelps, Jackson County, and Jenkins are not going to be in the alignment. The Fulton City and Evangel Christian football programs appear to be remaining in mothballs as well.

Class 6A	Adds 3 / Loses 4
ADDS	Frederick Douglass	Up from 5A
ADDS	Great Crossing	Up from 5A
ADDS	South Warren	Up from 5A
LOSES	Barren County	Down to 5A
LOSES	Butler	Down to 5A
LOSES	Dixie Heights	Down to 5A
LOSES	Marshall County	Down to 5A
Class 5A	Adds 10 / Loses 10
ADDS	Anderson County	Up from 4A
ADDS	Barren County	Down from 6A
ADDS	Butler	Down from 6A
ADDS	Dixie Heights	Down from 6A
ADDS	Harlan County	Up from 4A
ADDS	Madisonville-North Hopkins	Up from 4A
ADDS	Marshall County	Down from 6A
ADDS	Moore	Up from 4A
ADDS	Scott	Up from 4A
ADDS	Warren Central	Up from 4A
LOSES	Breckinridge County	Down to 4A
LOSES	Covington Catholic	Down to 4A
LOSES	Doss	Down to 4A
LOSES	Frederick Douglass	Up to 6A
LOSES	Jeffersontown	Down to 4A
LOSES	Grant County	Down to 4A
LOSES	Great Crossing	Up to 6A
LOSES	South Warren	Up to 6A
LOSES	Western	Down to 4A
LOSES	Whitley County	Down to 4A
Class 4A	Adds 15 / Loses 14
ADDS	Ashland	Up from 3A
ADDS	Breckinridge County	Down from 5A
ADDS	Covington Catholic	Down from 5A
ADDS	Doss	Down from 5A
ADDS	Elizabethtown	Up from 3A
ADDS	Jeffersontown	Down from 5A
ADDS	Grant County	Down from 5A
ADDS	Greenup County	Up from 3A
ADDS	Mason County	Up from 3A
ADDS	Nelson County	Up from 3A
ADDS	Paducah Tilghman	Up from 3A
ADDS	Taylor County	Up from 3A
ADDS	Western	Down from 5A
ADDS	Western Hills	Up from 3A
ADDS	Whitley County	Down from 5A
LOSES	Anderson County	Up to 5A
LOSES	Bourbon County	Down to 3A
LOSES	Central	Down to 3A
LOSES	Clay County	Down to 3A
LOSES	Franklin-Simpson	Down to 3A
LOSES	Harlan County	Up to 5A
LOSES	Hopkins County Central	Down to 3A
LOSES	Knox Central	Down to 3A
LOSES	Lexington Catholic	Down to 3A
LOSES	Madisonville-North Hopkins	Up to 5A
LOSES	Marion County	Down to 3A
LOSES	Moore	Up to 5A
LOSES	Scott	Up to 5A
LOSES	Warren Central	Up to 5A
Class 3A	Adds 11 / Loses 13
ADDS	Bath County	Up from 2A
ADDS	Bourbon County	Down from 4A
ADDS	Butler County	Up from 2A
ADDS	Central	Down from 4A
ADDS	Clay County	Down from 4A
ADDS	Edmonson County	Up from 2A
ADDS	Franklin-Simpson	Down from 4A
ADDS	Lexington Catholic	Down from 4A
ADDS	Lloyd Memorial	Up from 2A
ADDS	Marion County	Down from 4A
ADDS	Morgan County	Up from 2A
LOSES	Ashland	Up to 4A
LOSES	Belfry	Down to 2A
LOSES	Elizabethtown	Up to 4A
LOSES	Floyd Central	Down to 2A
LOSES	Glasgow	Down to 2A
LOSES	Greenup County	Up to 4A
LOSES	Jackson County	Not Competing
LOSES	Mason County	Up to 4A
LOSES	Nelson County	Up to 4A
LOSES	Paducah Tilghman	Up to 4A
LOSES	Pike County Central	Down to 2A
LOSES	Taylor County	Up to 4A
LOSES	Western Hills	Up to 4A
Class 2A	Adds 10 / Loses 9
ADDS	Belfry	Down from 3A
ADDS	Betsy Layne	Up from 1A
ADDS	Bracken County	Up from 1A
ADDS	Crittenden County	Up from 1A
ADDS	Floyd Central	Down from 3A
ADDS	Fort Knox	Up from 1A
ADDS	Glasgow	Down from 3A
ADDS	Pike County Central	Down from 3A
ADDS	St. Henry	New Program '25 Season
ADDS	WEB DuBois	New Program '24 Season
LOSES	Ballard Memorial	Down to 1A
LOSES	Bath County	Up to 3A
LOSES	Butler County	Up to 3A
LOSES	Covington Holy Cross	Down to 1A
LOSES	Edmonson County	Up to 3A
LOSES	Lloyd Memorial	Up to 3A
LOSES	Morgan County	Up to 3A
LOSES	Newport	Down to 1A
LOSES	Trimble County	Down to 1A
Class 1A	Adds 4 / Loses 4
ADDS	Ballard Memorial	Down from 2A
ADDS	Covington Holy Cross	Down from 2A
ADDS	Newport	Down from 2A
ADDS	Trimble County	Down from 2A
LOSES	Betsy Layne	Up to 2A
LOSES	Bracken County	Up to 2A
LOSES	Crittenden County	Up to 2A
LOSES	Fort Knox	Up to 2A

[rjs4470]

5 hours ago, Down4theblue said:

Looks like Anderson Co Moves up to 5A. 
Looks like Grant Co goes down 4A

Looks like Scott High moves from 5A

With Great Crossing and Douglas moving to 6A 

Whitley Co moves down to 4A

I can see some major shuffling on 5A district 6,7,8. Could see anderson joining  7. Scott high joining 6 and Madison Southern Moving to 8. 

Way too much travel for Scott. They have to drive by all the other NKY schools to play in that district. There would have to be some movement because right now there are 6 NKY teams in 5a with this alignment. If Cov Cath moves up that would make 7. Then you might see someone like South Oldham added to one of the NKY districts like they were when Scott was last in 5a with Conner, Cooper, South Oldham all in district together. I think Grant was the 5th team back then.