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Was this to me?

 

Ooops...my bad...I thought that I was responding to BirdBrain, but I must have accidentally clicked the wrong post to reply to... sorry about that, and it must have seemed WAY out of character for me if it truly was me responding to you, which of course it wasn't. :lol2:

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B-Ball-fan

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Ummm, let's see, First Amendment ? Being the Constitutional scholar you are, I would have thought you would have gotten this one straight away...but alas, you are blinded by your own argument.

 

Your comments demonstrate the EXACT same intolerance you have railed about for weeks now. Why shouldn't someone be allowed to "preach" ? There is no law against it, only laws that support it.

 

I won't use the "H" word here, but you have to know how this sounds...you do know how this sounds, right ?

 

Let's suppose you are correct (which you are not), and that it's perfectly legal for that christian dude to be disruptive, abusive, causing a scene, and annoying inside the government room while exercising his "freedom of speech", please tell you me that you at least have the sense to see that it's classless, ridiculous, and insane, and anyone who doesn't see it as such, I'd have the tendency to think of them as dumber than dirt, but that wouldn't be fair as it would only be a grave insult to the dirt.

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I would laugh at your recent posts in this thread if it wasn't so sad, as well as your sad attempt to assume that my knowledge concerning this is lacking. But if you want to continue to show your ignorance.

 

Can you go into a bank and say "I have a gun"? Can you be in an airplane and yell "hijack"? No, as the First Amendment does have limits, and there are limits at the courthouse as well.

Freedom of speech does have it's limits, such as in this case about the guy who was "preaching" inside of the courthouse.

The First Amendment does not give you the right to free speech on government property anytime, or anywhere you like, there are limits, which is LAW. A courthouse, as well as the courthouse property is NOT a public forum, therefore you do not have the right to exercise free speech there, The is LAW. The "county in this case, has the duty to control the property to be used only as it was intended, this too is the LAW. Also, just because it is government property, that does not give you the right to free access to it. The courthouse is not a public forum and any outburst or disruptions in grounds for removal and or arrest. This also extends to anywhere on the courthouse grounds, if they were on the sidewalk protesting? That is possible, but not on the courthouse property. All of this is the LAW.

 

ALL of what I have posted IS fact, and IS law. And YES, the so-called "preacher" is in violation, no matter how bad you want it not to be.

 

Please, look this all up, since you have no knowledge on this issue. Also, why not take me up on my suggestion? Go down to your courthouse, inside, and start "preaching" at people. Heck, if you don't at least get escorted out, I'll buy you a dinner at Jeff Ruby's. But we all know you won't take me up on this, as you know that you will be escorted out of the building, at least.

 

As you have said "wishing it away won't ever make it so".

 

So, if you want to continue dreaming that you are right (you are wrong), do as you please.

 

These are specifically covered and not protected by 1st Amendment...that has been established...as for the rest of your crazy rant, see below:

 

Cite the law, chapter and verse. I believe you find a court room is different than a courthouse or the property it sits on.

 

When you cite the law, specifically as you have indicated, we can continue...

 

If in fact this was "THE LAW", wouldn't you think someone would have enforced the law ? I mean after all, we have had every lawless person in North America in Morehead the past two weeks....I hear the arrest rates have skyrocketed.

 

Where is this "law" you speak of ?

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BirdBrain

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Let's suppose you are correct (which you are not), and that it's perfectly legal for that christian dude to be disruptive, abusive, causing a scene, and annoying inside the government room while exercising his "freedom of speech", please tell you me that you at least have the sense to see that it's classless, ridiculous, and insane, and anyone who doesn't see it as such, I'd have the tendency to think of them as dumber than dirt, but that wouldn't be fair as it would only be a grave insult to the dirt.

 

The law is fairly specific, but so far, no one has cited a specific law that has been broken. I have, in fact, cited an amendment to the Constitution that allows for it...kind of like the whole argument that's been going on in Morehead for a few weeks.

 

I never said I agreed with it, I do think it classless, just not illegal...

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The law is fairly specific, but so far, no one has cited a specific law that has been broken. I have, in fact, cited an amendment to the Constitution that allows for it...kind of like the whole argument that's been going on in Morehead for a few weeks.

 

I never said I agreed with it, I do think it classless, just not illegal...

 

We don't have the benefit of knowing for certain if the ranting christian guy had eventually been removed from the room or not, however within the little bit of video we were able to see it appeared that people were doing their best to take the high road and just ignore him.

 

It's possible I suppose that in an effort to keep things peaceful anyone of authority might've chosen to avoid a big escalated scene and overlooked it to avoid dragging him out of there, or who knows perhaps he was pulled aside and given a warning to knock it off.

 

We don't know.

 

If it is legal as you suggest I'd still believe that anyone of authority would still be entitled to judging the situation and take necessary measures if they felt that it was disruptive to the process at hand, and still be able to assess the situation and have the power within their discretion to oder the guy to shut up or leave.

 

If it were illegal for him to behave this way an officer could still perhaps avoid arresting him if after a warning the guy shut up and obeyed the warning. It's not always mandatory to make an arrest or issue a fine if defusing a situation with a warning is an option, and is respected and obeyed by the perpetrator, just like being served a warning if being pulled over for a traffic violation. Just because the guy might not have been arrested is no proof that it is legal.

 

No matter what I'm glad to hear that you at least see his behavior as classless.

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We don't have the benefit of knowing for certain if the ranting christian guy had eventually been removed from the room or not, however within the little bit of video we were able to see it appeared that people were doing their best to take the high road and just ignore him.

 

It's possible I suppose that in an effort to keep things peaceful anyone of authority might've chosen to avoid a big escalated scene and overlooked it to avoid dragging him out of there, or who knows perhaps he was pulled aside and given a warning to knock it off.

 

We don't know.

 

If it is legal as you suggest I'd still believe that anyone of authority would still be entitled to judging the situation and take necessary measures if they felt that it was disruptive to the process at hand, and still be able to assess the situation and have the power within their discretion to oder the guy to shut up or leave.

 

If it were illegal for him to behave this way an officer could still perhaps avoid arresting him if after a warning the guy shut up and obeyed the warning. It's not always mandatory to make an arrest or issue a fine if defusing a situation with a warning is an option, and is respected and obeyed by the perpetrator, just like being served a warning if being pulled over for a traffic violation. Just because the guy might not have been arrested is no proof that it is legal.

 

No matter what I'm glad to hear that you at least see his behavior as classless.

 

Absolutely. There are any number of distasteful actions going on, both sides of the street, that make the issue more of a circus than a solution. We definitely agree on this.

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Just watched the video of the latest couple getting a license and the guy preaching at them. He made a lot of really good points, like telling them they did not have a relationship of love. Constitutional or not, he made a really good decision to do that, and really sounded rational. I bet he changed a lot of minds.

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Just watched the video of the latest couple getting a license and the guy preaching at them. He made a lot of really good points, like telling them they did not have a relationship of love. Constitutional or not, he made a really good decision to do that, and really sounded rational. I bet he changed a lot of minds.

 

You're joking right?

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - The husband of Kim Davis -- the Kentucky county clerk who went to jail for her refusal to issue marriage licenses -- will be part of a Thursday rally in Nashville organized by the Tennessee Pastors Network.

 

 

Kentucky Clerk's Husband To Speak At Nashville Pastors Rally - NewsChannel5.com

 

 

Nashville will never be the same. LOL

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