h.s.sportsrbest Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Kearns can fetch more than Maddux. If that's the case he'd be traded today and I'd buy him lunch on the way to the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 What is it about DeNorfia that makes people comfortable with inserting him into the everyday lineup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 What is it about DeNorfia that makes people comfortable with inserting him into the everyday lineup? You can check out his stats for yourself and see he has done very well. He was Reds '05 minor league player of the year. He has done well in his limited stints with the big club. Narron was quoted as saying " I enjoy his style of play" ala Freel. He doesn't seem overwhelmed by big league pitching (see Brandon Larson) and IMO would do a fine job in the event that Kearns is dealt for someone the caliber of Jake Westbrook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaveliX2801 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'm waiting to see if something happens in the next 36 or so hours... As am I. Can't wait for the 2nd half to start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 You can check out his stats for yourself and see he has done very well. He was Reds '05 minor league player of the year. He has done well in his limited stints with the big club. Narron was quoted as saying " I enjoy his style of play" ala Freel. He doesn't seem overwhelmed by big league pitching (see Brandon Larson) and IMO would do a fine job in the event that Kearns is dealt for someone the caliber of Jake Westbrook. He has 46 MLB at-bats and you say he doesn't appear to be overwhelmed? 46 ABs and you're ready to make him an everyday player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 He has 46 MLB at-bats and you say he doesn't appear to be overwhelmed? 46 ABs and you're ready to make him an everyday player? My point was that it seems Denorfia is not overwhelmed by big league pitching whereas Larson obviously was. With your logic, no one would make it to the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 My point was that it seems Denorfia is not overwhelmed by big league pitching whereas Larson obviously was. With your logic, no one would make it to the show. For the record, there's a HUGE difference in 45 at bats and "making it" in the show... Most get eased in, unlike Larson who was thrown in and failed miserably. I call him an "aluminum bat casualty". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stark Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'm waiting to see if something happens in the next 36 or so hours... I think that the Reds will not make any major moves until this current 10 game homestand is over. The Cards are going to turn it around. The only reason we are still in the race is because St. Louis cooled off last month. The Brewers or Astros (or both) are going to heat up in the second half. Both teams have battled injuries, which has helped the Reds cause in the standings. If the Reds fall flat on their faces in this upcoming homestand then we'll hear the, "building for next year" speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 For the record, there's a HUGE difference in 45 at bats and "making it" in the show... Most get eased in, unlike Larson who was thrown in and failed miserably. I call him an "aluminum bat casualty". And for every Larson there is a success story. If Krivsky uses that same logic, not one deal will be made. Face it, one of the outfielders is the most likely candidate to be shipped out. Someone has to play! Who's to say that Denorfia couldn't be eased in with Freel in the outfield platoon? Or maybe we should just ride the current wave with who we have and not pull the trigger on the deal because we're worried we won't be able to fill whomever's shoes are traded. It's my opinion that we should do what we could to help us in the 2nd half. If Denorfia isn't "qualified" enough to step in then we have no one who is!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Who's to say that Denorfia couldn't be eased in with Freel in the outfield platoon? The above indicates that you want him to platoon with Freel and the below indicates that you want him to replace Kearns in an everyday roll. Which is it? There's a huge difference. IMO would do a fine job in the event that Kearns is dealt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 The above indicates that you want him to platoon with Freel and the below indicates that you want him to replace Kearns in an everyday roll. Which is it? There's a huge difference. I'm sick of trying to make a point,,,whatever. I want Larson back, how's that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'm sick of trying to make a point,,,whatever. I want Larson back, how's that?! Larson doesn't play outfield... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h.s.sportsrbest Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 What about Denorfia's stints lead you (plural, not necessarily Spindoc) to believe he'll ever be more than a: .260 / 10 / 60 / 60 type of guy? I think those numbers are best case scenario. Listen, if trading Kearns gets us a pitcher I'm fine with giving Denorfia a shot, however, I have no delusions that Chris is a superstar in the making. To answer your question Spindoc, I think the Reds are completely without a big-time "bat" prospect with the possible exception of Votto. I say that with Encarnacion in the bigs and not a "prospect" at this point. I would have rather banked on Cody Ross (as I've said numerous times) than Denorfia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 What about Denorfia's stints lead you (plural, not necessarily Spindoc) to believe he'll ever be more than a: .260 / 10 / 60 / 60 type of guy? I think those numbers are best case scenario. Listen, if trading Kearns gets us a pitcher I'm fine with giving Denorfia a shot, however, I have no delusions that Chris is a superstar in the making. To answer your question Spindoc, I think the Reds are completely without a big-time "bat" prospect with the possible exception of Votto. I say that with Encarnacion in the bigs and not a "prospect" at this point. I would have rather banked on Cody Ross (as I've said numerous times) than Denorfia. I never said that either, but some make it sound like we are gonna have to play with 8!:creepy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmAFan Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 What about Denorfia's stints lead you (plural, not necessarily Spindoc) to believe he'll ever be more than a: .260 / 10 / 60 / 60 type of guy? I think those numbers are best case scenario. Listen, if trading Kearns gets us a pitcher I'm fine with giving Denorfia a shot, however, I have no delusions that Chris is a superstar in the making. To answer your question Spindoc, I think the Reds are completely without a big-time "bat" prospect with the possible exception of Votto. I say that with Encarnacion in the bigs and not a "prospect" at this point. I would have rather banked on Cody Ross (as I've said numerous times) than Denorfia. I'd bet the farm he'd hit over 260. There is nothing in his stats that should make you think he'll hit that low. I'd say at best he could be a 290 hitter with 15-20 HRs and 80 and 80. And he might steal you 15 bases. Saying that 260,10, 60, 60 is best case scenario when it supports your arguement, but realistically it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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