I'm sure these people are against bullying too, I do as well. But without a SYG law people are being bullied to retreat from where they don't need to.

Florida Stand Your Ground

 

Again, SYG was not the defense's defense in this case...but here is this. This is LAW...think about it the next time you want to ATTACK someone.

 

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

If either of these jackwagons boycotted California because of the OJ verdict, I'd have more respect.

 

I couldn't agree more with this statement. OJ had far more evidence against him when he was acquitted than George Zimmerman did. How many protests were there then?

Like either of you had a good opinion about The Boss prior to this. :lol:

What's the fact that I don't like most of his music (I do like a few of his songs) got to do with him and the others being idiots on this subject?

I'm hearing the list has grown and now includes current stars such as Justin Timberlake, Jay-Z, Kanye West, Mary J. Blige, Madonna, The Rolling Stones and many others.

 

Can anyone confirm?

If this is true, minus The Rolling Stones, I'd say that's great news for Florida!

No one thinks you all are genuises. We like your music, so shut up and sing.

 

This is how I feel for all "stars". However it is they made their money, keep doing that and entertain. Don't open your mouth and show us just how ignorant you are.

No one thinks you all are genuises. We like your music, so shut up and sing.

 

This is how I feel for all "stars". However it is they made their money, keep doing that and entertain. Don't open your mouth and show us just how ignorant you are.

Amen! If they want to protest something, do it in a song!

Springsteen tours I found were 2009, 2012 and 2013. One stop in Tampa in 2012. I suspect the other artist would have similar results.

Springsteen tours I found were 2009, 2012 and 2013. One stop in Tampa in 2012. I suspect the other artist would have similar results.

 

Besides shows in Miami I bet you are correct.

Obama was all for SYG laws in 2004... He sponsored and supported a bill to strengthen SYG laws in Illinois...... I wonder if the boycotting performers will be skipping the state?

I consider a self-appointed watchman who keeps tabs on "suspicious" people in lieu of the police and needs a gun to protect himself in the course of his "duties" to be a form of vigilantism.

 

Self appointed? I thought he was part of an organized neighborhood watch. Regardless, what you call "vigilantism" I call a responsible homeowner and proactive/responsible neighbor. I only wish we could get a watch started in my neighborhood, I would be involved, and I am sure at least sometimes I would carry as well.

Florida Stand Your Ground

 

Again, SYG was not the defense's defense in this case...but here is this. This is LAW...think about it the next time you want to ATTACK someone.

 

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

REALLY?!?! That's the law? What in the world could anyone be upset about?

Seriously, what is wrong with that law?

Self appointed? I thought he was part of an organized neighborhood watch. Regardless, what you call "vigilantism" I call a responsible homeowner and proactive/responsible neighbor. I only wish we could get a watch started in my neighborhood, I would be involved, and I am sure at least sometimes I would carry as well.

 

I'm struggling to figure out what you (and others) consider vigilantism if it isn't what you all keep describing.

 

I'm certainly leery of people taking on the legitimate functions of law enforcement (without the requisite accountability). I don't think there is anything wrong with being vigilant over your home or property, but I believe that also entails allowing the police to handle dangerous situations if one is to arise.

 

Furthermore, I think there are legitimate concerns about the laws in question in that they seem to legitimate some types of reckless behavior. I don't have any problem with self-defense. I question the prudence of a law that could allow someone to be an instigator and then be immune from responsibility so long as they reasonably believe harm is imminent. That appears dangerously broad.

I'm hearing the list has grown and now includes current stars such as Justin Timberlake, Jay-Z, Kanye West, Mary J. Blige, Madonna, The Rolling Stones and many others.

 

Wouldn't go see of them even if given FREE front row seats & backstage passes.

 

 

Can anyone confirm?

 

Wouldn't go see of them even if given FREE front row seats & backstage passes.

 

Why would anyone care? If this is news, serious news...than I can start to report to the world every time I change my underwear (which is once a day, if anyone cared). The more we look up to these buffoons the more we dumb down our children. This is all about headlines, nothing more. And it makes me sick, using a dead 17 year old to make money...count me out of that one.

 

BINGO!!!!!!

I'm struggling to figure out what you (and others) consider vigilantism if it isn't what you all keep describing.

 

I'm certainly leery of people taking on the legitimate functions of law enforcement (without the requisite accountability). I don't think there is anything wrong with being vigilant over your home or property, but I believe that also entails allowing the police to handle dangerous situations if one is to arise.

 

Furthermore, I think there are legitimate concerns about the laws in question in that they seem to legitimate some types of reckless behavior. I don't have any problem with self-defense. I question the prudence of a law that could allow someone to be an instigator and then be immune from responsibility so long as they reasonably believe harm is imminent. That appears dangerously broad.

 

The "legitimate functions of law enforcement" aren't to keep an eye on my property or those of my neighbors on a routine basis. Unfortunately, many/most law enforcement actions are "reactive"...something has happened and they respond. If I want to help ensure my home and my neighborhood are better watched after and help deter un wanted persons and or un wanted actions, then that's up to me and the neighborhood at large.

 

I say one is being vigilant (keenly alert to or heedful of trouble or danger, as while others are sleeping or unsuspicious) when doing this. Being vigilant and being a vigilante are two very separate things.