An attempt to evaluate the possible trade market for the Reds...

[nkufan23]

Reds Interested In Denard Span: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Reds interested in Denard Span...Id love to have him but Id hate to give up Cingrani to get him...

[HammerTime]

I wouldn't do it for that unless they are paying a ton of his salary.

[EZ Living]

I wouldn't do it for that unless they are paying a ton of his salary.

 

Why is his salary that big an obstacle? This according to Cots is what he is owed through 2015.

 

Player Pos Mls Srv Agent Length / Total Value 2012 2013 2014 2015

Span, Denard lf 3.111 Joe Urbon CAA 5 yr/$16.5M (10-14)+15 cl opt $3,000,000 $4.750 $6.500 $0.500

[BigGreenHorse]

I think we need to try and get a fifth starter to replace Boom Boom Arroyo

[UKMustangFan]

^When you're #5 guy is giving you a QS roughly 60% of the time and has an ERA under 4, I'd say he's not a problem.

[UKMustangFan]

QS:

Cueto - 16 (2.23 ERA)

Bailey -15 (3.53 ERA)

Leake - 11 (4.12 ERA)

Arroyo - 11 (3.98 ERA)

Latos - 8 (4.30 ERA)

 

I'm sorry, but how can you look at the numbers and come to the conclusion that Arroyo is a liability or problem?

[dmderringer10]

QS:

Cueto - 16 (2.23 ERA)

Bailey -15 (3.53 ERA)

Leake - 11 (4.12 ERA)

Arroyo - 11 (3.98 ERA)

Latos - 8 (4.30 ERA)

 

I'm sorry, but how can you look at the numbers and come to the conclusion that Arroyo is a liability or problem?

 

I don't expect anything different from the majority on here...

[HammerTime]

Why is his salary that big an obstacle? This according to Cots is what he is owed through 2015.

 

Player Pos Mls Srv Agent Length / Total Value 2012 2013 2014 2015

Span, Denard lf 3.111 Joe Urbon CAA 5 yr/$16.5M (10-14)+15 cl opt $3,000,000 $4.750 $6.500 $0.500

 

Because he isn't worth adding that salary when you have your future lead off hitter waiting in the wings as early as next year.

[LRCW]

I don't expect anything different from the majority on here...

 

I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. Are you saying you feel the majority thinks Arroyo is a liability, or the majority doesn't feel he is a liability?

[dmderringer10]

I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. Are you saying you feel the majority thinks Arroyo is a liability, or the majority doesn't feel he is a liability?

 

I feel the majority doesn't have any clue what they're talking about.

[UKMustangFan]

According to Jayson Stark, Walt feels he "needs to do something" and is looking into a middle of the lineup hitter.

 

Starks Notes

[dmderringer10]

According to Jayson Stark, Walt feels he "needs to do something" and is looking into a middle of the lineup hitter.

 

Starks Notes

 

A lot of people keep saying they need a leadoff hitter.

 

I completely disagree. If they get someone to hit #4 when Votto returns then BP can move back in front of Votto and get on base for 3,4,5.

 

It'd have to be a big name player to make much of a difference though.

[UKMustangFan]

A lot of people keep saying they need a leadoff hitter.

 

I completely disagree. If they get someone to hit #4 when Votto returns then BP can move back in front of Votto and get on base for 3,4,5.

 

It'd have to be a big name player to make much of a difference though.

 

I agree, although I am personally somewhat intrigued by this possible lineup...

 

Phillips

Cozart

Votto

Pence

Bruce

Frazier/Rolen

Stubbs

Hanigan/Meso

 

 

Ludwick would slide into the 4th OF'er role, and Heisey would almost have to be included in a deal.

 

Not sure how much a difference it would make, but it's an intriguing option IMO.

[dmderringer10]

I agree, although I am personally somewhat intrigued by this possible lineup...

 

Phillips

Cozart

Votto

Pence

Bruce

Frazier/Rolen

Stubbs

Hanigan/Meso

 

 

Ludwick would slide into the 4th OF'er role, and Heisey would almost have to be included in a deal.

 

Not sure how much a difference it would make, but it's an intriguing option IMO.

 

Pence would be a big name like I'm talking about. I don't really see Philly selling though.

 

I hope Walt doesn't make a move just for the sake of making a move because he feels like he needs to do something. It needs to be something that drastically improves the team.

[dmderringer10]

Everybody keeps talking about the Reds scouting Span from the twins. Given Walt's comments today, could they really be scouting Josh Willingham?