UKMustangFan Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Red Sox take a 3-1 series lead. Just an absolutely atrocious call on the Altuve HR. Betts glove was a) clearly closed, b) clearly over the wall and in the stands, and c) the ball was already by him when the fan made contact. How you can call that an out is just absurd. Complete screw job IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantNKY Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Worst call I’ve ever seen on HR/ out. Astros got completely hosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Rocket28 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 You should go back and watch that replay. His glove was pushed closed by one of the fans going for the ball. They showed a side angle and it looks like the fans hands were a little past the wall. I’m not saying it was “fan interference”. I’m not cheering for anyone at this point cause I don’t care for any of the teams, but Mookie most likely makes that catch if the fan didn’t shut his glove closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugatti Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I have always wondered this. I get enhancing the fan experience, but why does baseball allow spectators to be that close to the action to where a fan can be put into that situation? We are talking adjustments of a few feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 You should go back and watch that replay. His glove was pushed closed by one of the fans going for the ball. They showed a side angle and it looks like the fans hands were a little past the wall. I’m not saying it was “fan interference”. I’m not cheering for anyone at this point cause I don’t care for any of the teams, but Mookie most likely makes that catch if the fan didn’t shut his glove closed. I've watched it multiple times. Astros got completely hosed, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Ball-fan Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I have always wondered this. I get enhancing the fan experience, but why does baseball allow spectators to be that close to the action to where a fan can be put into that situation? We are talking adjustments of a few feet. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Red Sox take a 3-1 series lead. Just an absolutely atrocious call on the Altuve HR. Betts glove was a) clearly closed, b) clearly over the wall and in the stands, and c) the ball was already by him when the fan made contact. How you can call that an out is just absurd. Complete screw job IMO. A and C are not correct. B is the only point up for discussion. @SportsCenter twitter account posted a slow motion video of it that clearly shows Betts' glove was closed by contacting a fan and he would have likely caught the ball as it was not past him. The only point of discussion is whether his glove was past the wall or in the field of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 That one call is probably the difference in this series being 2-2 instead of 3-1. More than likely has changed the outcome of who advances on to the WS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 The fan 100% caused Mookie's glove to close. There is no debating that. Now, we can argue whether or not Mookie was over the wall, or the fan was in the field of play, but there is no debate on why/how his glove was closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack The Knife Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 If the ball has cleared the wall the only fan interference has to be intentional. The fan has as much right to the ball as the fielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 That one call is probably the difference in this series being 2-2 instead of 3-1. More than likely has changed the outcome of who advances on to the WS. Wasn't this in the first inning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 The fan 100% caused Mookie's glove to close. There is no debating that. Now, we can argue whether or not Mookie was over the wall, or the fan was in the field of play, but there is no debate on why/how his glove was closed. Yep, pretty clear. That said I'm not sure what the call on the field was but IMO whatever it was you can't overturn with replay as it was not clear who was where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 You should go back and watch that replay. His glove was pushed closed by one of the fans going for the ball. They showed a side angle and i looks like the fans hands were a little past the wall. I’m not saying it was “fan interference”. I’m not cheering for anyone at this point cause I don’t care for any of the teams, but Mookie most likely makes that catch if the fan didn’t shut his glove closed. A and C are not correct. B is the only point up for discussion. @SportsCenter twitter account posted a slow motion video of it that clearly shows Betts' glove was closed by contacting a fan and he would have likely caught the ball as it was not past him. The only point of discussion is whether his glove was past the wall or in the field of play. The fan 100% caused Mookie's glove to close. There is no debating that. Now, we can argue whether or not Mookie was over the wall, or the fan was in the field of play, but there is no debate on why/how his glove was closed. I agree with the above. Betts catches that ball if not for the fan interference. I also don't think the ball had crossed over the fence at the time that the fans made contact with Mookie's glove. Could someone post the rule related to fan interference in this situation? I saw it last night after the game and after reading it it made me think it should have been fan interference but I can't relate the specifics here without having the rule right in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Yep, pretty clear. That said I'm not sure what the call on the field was but IMO whatever it was you can't overturn with replay as it was not clear who was where. The call on the field by Joe West was out because of fan interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Rocket28 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 You can clearly see the guy in the white is bent over at the waist, over the wall. Then he’s reaching right with his arm extended over the wall. The other two guys are reached out even further. You can also see Mookie isn’t even touching the wall yet. I never thought I’d say this, but Joe West got the call right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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