Pioneer.Pride Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 It seems to me that McCain and Murkowski would rather see ObamaCare fail, with the democrats owning it, than risk owning a failed replacement. Does POTUS move on and start working on tax reform (and thereby accepting defeat), or does he escalate the matter further? If so, what does that escalation look like? Somehow, I don't see this POTUS accepting defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawildcat Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 My guess is he will let it fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habib Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 He's probably going to continue to do nothing but insult people on Twitter. I have seen no evidence he can distinguish between the ACA and the various repeal bills, let alone cares what the differences are. His only concern is claiming victory and holding another White House ceremony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbird Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 It seems to me that McCain and Murkowski would rather see ObamaCare fail, with the democrats owning it, than risk owning a failed replacement. Does POTUS move on and start working on tax reform (and thereby accepting defeat), or does he escalate the matter further? If so, what does that escalation look like? Somehow, I don't see this POTUS accepting defeat. Accept defeat? I thought he already declared and celebrated victory in the Rose Garden. The only thing missing was the "mission accomplished" banner as a backdrop. :jump: I do not believe Trump is intelligent and he appears to be anti-intellectual. His role in tax reform will likely be similar to his role in the shepherding of health care legislation. He will stand well to the side and tweet (using the word "very" more than my kids did when they were toddlers). It isn't a bad role for him. One of his strengths is expressing his unfiltered thoughts 140 characters at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcats Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Blame democrats ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer.Pride Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Blame democrats ? That's McConnell's play, not Trump's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjs4470 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Over 6 months in, with a Republican controlled Congress, and President Trump has accomplished nothing. No wall, nor repeal of the ACA, no tax reform, no important legislation of any kind. The only swamp he's drained is his own, quickly replacing several of his own hires. Historically unpopular. Not only that, there seems to be no real clear direction, nothing on the horizon. At least the Republican party was unified against Obama. Now under Trump they can't get together on anything, even though they have the hammer. As a country we seem almost directionless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcats Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 That's McConnell's play, not Trump's. Twitter What?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Maniac Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Twitter What?! Maybe that was "fake news". We just cannot tell.:idunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Maniac Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 It seems to me that McCain and Murkowski would rather see ObamaCare fail, with the democrats owning it, than risk owning a failed replacement. Does POTUS move on and start working on tax reform (and thereby accepting defeat), or does he escalate the matter further? If so, what does that escalation look like? Somehow, I don't see this POTUS accepting defeat. It doesn't matter whether he accepts it or not. It was defeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer.Pride Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Twitter What?! Still a veiled swipe at GOP Senators. Nobody expected a single democrat to vote for the replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newarkcatholicfan Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 He will act like a spoiled brat and tweet all about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer.Pride Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 It doesn't matter whether he accepts it or not. It was defeated. There is a difference between setback and defeat. Congress is still going to be in session the rest of August. Trump tried to get this done through lobbying and persuasion. A normal politician would consider the political consequences, accept defeat, and move on. I don't think this POTUS cares about political consequences. I suspect McCain and Murkowski will see a different side of Trump's persona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Pretty much every single Senator and Representative has ran on replacing or eliminating Obamacare...this is on them more than Trump if it doesn't happen. When Obamacare ultimately fails however it will be spun as Trump's fault, when the fault should fall on the original bill...the ACA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcats Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Pretty much every single Senator and Representative has ran on replacing or eliminating Obamacare...this is on them more than Trump if it doesn't happen. When Obamacare ultimately fails however it will be spun as Trump's fault, when the fault should fall on the original bill...the ACA. Dems cooked a bill up they thought would be improved over 8 years. They lost elections and made no improvements. I hang that on them. Republicans developed no plan to improve healthcare just get rid of it. That is on them. I won't bet a penny it will happen, but a bipartisan reformation of ACA is what is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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