GusMcRae Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 A thread in the general discussion got me a little fired up (again) and I thought this thread belongs here as govt has to fix it... I am a former school teacher...but for the life of me I cannot figure out why we do not pay our school teachers more money. We are not going to attract the best individuals to the profession when they can make more money managing a Speedway. Also, why do we not pay teachers based on merit? We pay them based on time of service. This is absolutely ridiculous. What other profession does this? You can be the best teacher in school yet make the same or less than the worst. Even the military promotes based on merit. The best lawyers make the most $$$, same for Docs, basically any other professional. What say you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHSDad Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 The same problem applies to social workers and other fields requiring advanced degrees and lousey pay. As far as merit pay, you can blame teacher's unions for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I would agree about social workers (I am a little bias my wife is one) and about other fields requiring advanced degrees. However I do not necessarily agree about teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigman Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Gus I would agree in general, but some teachers I've been around could be classified as overpayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GusMcRae Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 Gus I would agree in general, but some teachers I've been around could be classified as overpayed. Well that makes my point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcesFull Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I agree. Some are underpaid, some are overpaid, and all should be paid based upon merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 A thread in the general discussion got me a little fired up (again) and I thought this thread belongs here as govt has to fix it... I am a former school teacher...but for the life of me I cannot figure out why we do not pay our school teachers more money. We are not going to attract the best individuals to the profession when they can make more money managing a Speedway. Also, why do we not pay teachers based on merit? We pay them based on time of service. This is absolutely ridiculous. What other profession does this? You can be the best teacher in school yet make the same or less than the worst. Even the military promotes based on merit. The best lawyers make the most $$$, same for Docs, basically any other professional. What say you? Pretty much any Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRedRam Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I am a former school teacher...but for the life of me I cannot figure out why we do not pay our school teachers more money. We are not going to attract the best individuals to the profession when they can make more money managing a Speedway. Managing a Speedway most likely consists of 50+ hours a week 50 weeks a year. Dealing with everything from advertising, ordering, maintenance, Human resources, payroll, customer issues, and cash flow maintenance. I'd say managing a speedway is significantly more difficult than teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEXT Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Managing a Speedway most likely consists of 50+ hours a week 50 weeks a year. Dealing with everything from advertising, ordering, maintenance, Human resources, payroll, customer issues, and cash flow maintenance. I'd say managing a speedway is significantly more difficult than teaching. Uh, no If you are a good teacher, you average at least 50 hours a week and deal with peoples kids and until you have done that, you have no clue how hard of a job it is......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRedRam Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Uh, no If you are a good teacher, you average at least 50 hours a week and deal with peoples kids and until you have done that, you have no clue how hard of a job it is......... We disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnthr4life Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Why is that this has to be blamed on unions? There's good and bad in everything and it's not always the fault of the unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Why is that this has to be blamed on unions? There's good and bad in everything and it's not always the fault of the unions. What statement made about unions in this thread is untrue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 How would a pay system based on "merit" work? How would you measure that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Uh, no If you are a good teacher, you average at least 50 hours a week and deal with peoples kids and until you have done that, you have no clue how hard of a job it is......... When you say average 50 hours per week is that for the calendar year or school year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHSDad Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Why is that this has to be blamed on unions? There's good and bad in everything and it's not always the fault of the unions. Its part of the collective bargaining process in all union companies. The union negoiates standard pay rates based on years of service and rank. Teacher's unions also negoitate tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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