The Scribe Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So add Haren to the Reds Rumor Rotation that includes Bedard, Prior, and Lincecum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 For the record, I'd rather have Bedard. :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoesGym Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 What is the contract status on Haren? I belive that Bedard still has two years left on his if I'm not mistaken. Haren is under contract for 2 more years with a club option on a 3rd. In 2008 his contract is for $4 Million, 2009 it is for $5.5 Million with and additional $750K in incentives and the club option for 2009 is for $6.75 Million with a $250K buyout. He's not all that expensive--I am however hearing that the Indians are supposed to be putting a package together to make a bid on him--and I know that he is supposed to be plan B if the Red Sox abandon their pursuit of Santana. He'll probably cost more in prospects than in terms of salary if the Indians, Red Sox and Yankees get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I like both, but hold out hope we get Bedard. Same song each and every hot stove season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h.s.sportsrbest Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Out of curiousity, why? I've always thought Haren was much better. I guess Bedard plays in a tougher division (and AL east pitchers do well in the NL), but isn't Haren younger? Two factors, one you touched on and one you didn't. 1. Lefty. Balances out Arroyo, Harang and Bailey (if he is still here after the deal). 2. Track record from pitching in baseball's most lethal division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cch5432 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Didn't take Lefty into account. I would be happy with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyCAT Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 This would be a big grab for the REDS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoesGym Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I understand that. But I still don't feel the Reds can compete from a financial standpoint to secure a pitcher of this guys caliber. Even if they work out a trade, the Reds wouldn't be able to keep this guy around. He's not a free agent, he's signed for 08 and 09 with a club option for 2010. The Reds total investment (if he reaches all of his incentives) would be $17 Million for 3 seasons or $10.5 Million if they chose to buy him out in 2010 instead of picking up his option. If they can't afford that they should probably move to AAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnthr4life Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 He's not a free agent, he's signed for 08 and 09 with a club option for 2010. The Reds total investment (if he reaches all of his incentives) would be $17 Million for 3 seasons or $10.5 Million if they chose to buy him out in 2010 instead of picking up his option. If they can't afford that they should probably move to AAA. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioneer568 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 This would be huge. I sure hope the reds can pull the trigger on this deal. I just hope they keep Bruce, I think he is going to be a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint4 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 This makes me think that they ARE GOING to make a trade, whether for Lincecum, Haren, or Bedard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I would love to see the Reds get a pitcher but I think it will come at the cost of some of the Reds better prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzer beater Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 This would be nice.. Haren would be perfect for Cincinnati. Put Haren with Harang and that's two 14-17 game winners right there. If anyway possible Bedard and Haren can both come to Cincy.....wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoesGym Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 This would be nice.. Haren would be perfect for Cincinnati. Put Haren with Harang and that's two 14-17 game winners right there. If anyway possible Bedard and Haren can both come to Cincy.....wow... No way Cincy has the products to pull off both deals. Even one will be tough if one of the big boys gets in a bidding war with the Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I would love to see the Reds get a pitcher but I think it will come at the cost of some of the Reds better prospects. Are you in any way familiar with BigBlueInsanity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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