75center Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 To Vegas? Of course not. But they still have quality entertainment there on a weekly basis. And I don't know how you could argue that Jeff Ruby's Steakhouse isn't a first-class restaurant. And the hotels at each are very nice, as well as the golf courses. Each of the Indiana riverboats has similar amenities as a Vegas, they just don't have it all concentrated in one place. I was responding to another poster who had compared them to Vegas. I never said they were not nice. They just are not on that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75center Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 With history as a guide, they would both be substantial. Yes they would, just not in the numbers some people have been throwing out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM4THEHOUNDS Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 You can try to spin the facts around all you like; but the reality of the situation is that the casinos are coming. They will be tremendously successful. And they will be a great thing for both the community and the state. They may be coming. With your spin on the issue it seems that it is inevitable. However, I will not support it. You may and that is your privilege. Might I add that the only thing they will be successful in doing is ruining people's lives. I really can't see how that is a great thing for the community and the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdsfan Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Might I add that the only thing they will be successful in doing is ruining people's lives.Only in the imaginations of those who don't want to see the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Only in the imaginations of those who don't want to see the truth. I will send your words out to all the families that have had their lives ruined by the gambling addiction of one of their parents. They will be glad to know that it is actually not a reality for them but rather an imaginative moment.:thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habib Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I don't see how this: I will send your words out to all the families that have had their lives ruined by the gambling addiction of one of their parents. They will be glad to now that it is actually not a reality for them but rather an imaginative moment.:thumb: is a justification for this: Might I add that the only thing they will be successful in doing is ruining people's lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo42171 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I will send your words out to all the families that have had their lives ruined by the gambling addiction of one of their parents. They will be glad to now that it is actually not a reality for them but rather an imaginative moment.:thumb: Lives are not ruined by gambling, they are ruined by losing:fight::fight: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 Camel Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I will send your words out to all the families that have had their lives ruined by the gambling addiction of one of their parents. They will be glad to know that it is actually not a reality for them but rather an imaginative moment.:thumb: To continue to let our dollars go across the border to Indiana is ridiculous. You don't want a casino because it doesn't fit with your moral standing. They are already available. Lets get the benefit from them in our state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 To continue to let our dollars go across the border to Indiana is ridiculous. You don't want a casino because it doesn't fit with your moral standing. They are already available. Lets get the benefit from them in our state. Here is a novel idea. How about a benefit to our state that doesn't ruin people's lives. Work to bring in things like Toyota, programs for farmers, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Ram54 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Here is a novel idea. How about a benefit to our state that doesn't ruin people's lives. Work to bring in things like Toyota, programs for farmers, etc. Except that to bring in Toyota we have to promise not to tax them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo42171 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 There are only so many "Toyota's" in the world and there are only so many subsidies you can give to farmers. This is something brand new to the state that has a potential to bring in billions without tax incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Except that to bring in Toyota we have to promise not to tax them... O but the tax revenue from the jobs created that are actually a benefit to the community and not a drain on the community. Not including all the jobs that are creating in other communities around the state that are making products for Toyota. AND are you assuming that the casinos won't be given some sort of break to build in the local communities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Chasing the mirage http://www2.hawaii.edu/~irohter/CasinoBoatArticle.htm that was the first article came up on a search for tax revenues from casinos. * Six of the counties with the highest bankruptcy rates in the nation in 1996 were located near the ten riverboat casinos in Tunica, Mississippi.[7] * Iowa counties with a casino, racetrack or riverboat, have a bankruptcy rate 21 percent higher than the state average.[8] with the hatred towards Walmart on here. cannibalizing of locally-owned small businesses resulting from dollars being siphoned away by offshore gambling owners. * a well-known objective study that found Illinois taxpayers had to pay $3 to remedy gambling-associated social problems for ever $1 of state tax revenue collected.[1] * a recent Maryland study finding that for each $40 generated by gambling, the state spent $200 on service.[2] * the 1994 study conducted by Florida's Department of Commerce that found that the costs and impacts on the criminal justice system, the social welfare system, small businesses, and the local economy, would be significantly greater than any revenues brought in by casinos.[3] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 Camel Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Here is a novel idea. How about a benefit to our state that doesn't ruin people's lives. Work to bring in things like Toyota, programs for farmers, etc. The dollars are already being spent in casinos. There are boats from northern KY to the tip of western KY. Keep the dollars in our state. The only thing that ruins people's lives is their own irresponsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHSDad Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 There are only so many "Toyota's" in the world and there are only so many subsidies you can give to farmers. This is something brand new to the state that has a potential to bring in billions without tax incentives. The law of supply and demand says that we're not going to get the same bang that Indiana did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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