Is the Big XII in good hands with Allstate?

[DevilMayCare]

Naming rights for the Big XII are on the table, as the conference negotiates with the Allstate insurance company. If the deal comes to pass, it could generate anywhere from 30-50$ million a year for the conference. 

Get ready for the 'Allstate 12'.

This feels like the next logical step for the direction of college athletics. Doesn't mean I have to like it. The purist in me just threw up in his mouth a little.

 

[Jumper_Dad]

At least All State has great commercials.

If Liberty Mutal sponsors a league and we have to see even more Emu or Libbity Bibbity commercials, I'll poke my eyes out.

[DanvilleFan]

This is such a joke.  I'm waiting until we have to watch an ad to order something in a store or online at checkout.

[TheDeuce]

The decay of amateur college athletics continues. 

[Jumper_Dad]

Ahh for the good old days with just 3 college football games on TV every Saturday. 

Some of you older fellows will remember when at most there would be three college football games televised on Saturdays. If you weren't a fan of Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma or your favorite team didn't play a huge rivalry game like Michigan/Ohio State or Army/Navy, good luck seeing them play on national TV. I grew up an Alabama football fan because it seemed like Bear Bryant and Bama were either on TV or featured in Sports Illustrated every week, I just saw them more and became a fan.

Thankfully you can live anywhere in the country now and still follow your favorite team either through ESPN, Fox, the Big 3 or Streaming...commercialism is the price paid for the remarkable access that we have to college athletics now.

[swamprat]

On 6/14/2024 at 9:03 AM, TheDeuce said:

The decay of amateur college athletics continues. 

I quit watching the NBA 30 years ago, the MLB 20 years ago, and the NFL 7 years ago. The only NFL game I've watched in the last 7 years was the Bengal/Ram Super Bowl because family was visiting and they wanted to see it. I really haven't miss any of them.

Most of you guys know I used to have season tickets for USF everything. Last season, I did not watch but one or two USF football games on TV and have stopped going to the games unless somebody invites me to to with them. I may never visit the new on-campus stadium.

I attended more USF club hockey matches than I have football, basketball, and baseball games combined in the last few years. At least at those events I'm watching non-scholarship players playing for the love of the game and the iconic U on their jersey. 

My grandson is entering his senior year in high school. With Florida now allowing high schoolers to participate in the NIL, this will probably be my last year of watching high school sports. That may change if my granddaughter makes the varsity soccer team in Apopka in her last 2 years. 

[theguru]

22 minutes ago, swamprat said:

I quit watching the NBA 30 years ago, the MLB 20 years ago, and the NFL 7 years ago. The only NFL game I've watched in the last 7 years was the Bengal/Ram Super Bowl because family was visiting and they wanted to see it. I really haven't miss any of them.

Most of you guys know I used to have season tickets for USF everything. Last season, I did not watch but one or two USF football games on TV and have stopped going to the games unless somebody invites me to to with them. I may never visit the new on-campus stadium.

I attended more USF club hockey matches than I have football, basketball, and baseball games combined in the last few years. At least at those events I'm watching non-scholarship players playing for the love of the game and the iconic U on their jersey. 

My grandson is entering his senior year in high school. With Florida now allowing high schoolers to participate in the NIL, this will probably be my last year of watching high school sports. That may change if my granddaughter makes the varsity soccer team in Apopka in her last 2 years. 

That is a lot of change.  Knowing what I know about you the biggest surprise to me is the loss of interest in USF football, wow. 

I am not a fan of the NIL in high school sports.  As far as college sports are concerned, they were way overdue for change and it is what it is.  I still maintain high level college athletes need a union but I question whether said union would be corrupted immediately.  

[Tranquility Base]

They hijacked the conference championships a number of years ago and bowl games decades ago.  It was only a matter of time.  I know it is across all sports now, but it started with football.  Football ruined college sports.

[DanvilleFan]

7 hours ago, theguru said:

That is a lot of change.  Knowing what I know about you the biggest surprise to me is the loss of interest in USF football, wow. 

I am not a fan of the NIL in high school sports.  As far as college sports are concerned, they were way overdue for change and it is what it is.  I still maintain high level college athletes need a union but I question whether said union would be corrupted immediately.  

I just don't think a union has much bargaining power.  Players go on strike?  Schools just revoke scholarships for next term, housing, etc.  And its like "Okay then, goodbye."  The public might care if they don't get to see pro sports but how much is there going to be groundswell of people outraged that a college sports season doesn't happen?

[theguru]

3 minutes ago, DanvilleFan said:

I just don't think a union has much bargaining power.  Players go on strike?  Schools just revoke scholarships for next term, housing, etc.  And its like "Okay then, goodbye."  The public might care if they don't get to see pro sports but how much is there going to be groundswell of people outraged that a college sports season doesn't happen?

I am not sure how I think it would work but I think the players need representation. 

[Jumper_Dad]

On 7/5/2024 at 9:08 PM, theguru said:

I am not sure how I think it would work but I think the players need representation. 

Not picking on you G, just asking to all.

Only a very small number (28 according to Forbes article) of the 363  D1 schools had athletic programs revenue exceeding profits. All but a dozen of schools (all from either SEC or Big10, except Kansas State) have athletic programs that aren't having some deficits covered by tuition or activity fees charged to all students.

All of the current TV revenues generated by March Madness, CWS and College football is already returned to the member schools or used to pay for championships in "lesser" sports and is figured in their profitability. 

How do those other programs pay players in a sustainable way? Where does the money come?

[theguru]

4 hours ago, Jumper_Dad said:

Not picking on you G, just asking to all.

Only a very small number (28 according to Forbes article) of the 363  D1 schools had athletic programs revenue exceeding profits. All but a dozen of schools (all from either SEC or Big10, except Kansas State) have athletic programs that aren't having some deficits covered by tuition or activity fees charged to all students.

All of the current TV revenues generated by March Madness, CWS and College football is already returned to the member schools or used to pay for championships in "lesser" sports and is figured in their profitability. 

How do those other programs pay players in a sustainable way? Where does the money come?

The popular, money making sports/teams subsidizing the money losing sports/teams is one of the major reasons the elite players need representation.  Those elite players are being cheated.

[mcpapa]

On 6/14/2024 at 11:07 AM, Jumper_Dad said:

Ahh for the good old days with just 3 college football games on TV every Saturday. 

Some of you older fellows will remember when at most there would be three college football games televised on Saturdays. If you weren't a fan of Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma or your favorite team didn't play a huge rivalry game like Michigan/Ohio State or Army/Navy, good luck seeing them play on national TV. I grew up an Alabama football fan because it seemed like Bear Bryant and Bama were either on TV or featured in Sports Illustrated every week, I just saw them more and became a fan.

Thankfully you can live anywhere in the country now and still follow your favorite team either through ESPN, Fox, the Big 3 or Streaming...commercialism is the price paid for the remarkable access that we have to college athletics now.

TV?

[Jumper_Dad]

49 minutes ago, theguru said:

The popular, money making sports/teams subsidizing the money losing sports/teams is one of the major reasons the elite players need representation.  Those elite players are being cheated.

I get what you're saying, but where is the money coming from? Eliminating all non-revenue producing sports?

Way less than half of D1 schools are even profitable in Football, even less in Basketball. 

[Jumper_Dad]

12 minutes ago, mcpapa said:

TV?

Smoke signals in some cases!