February 15, 20179 yr News flash: politicians lie, always have, always will. If either side of the arguement really thought they would act different I need to have you evaluated. Its what they do and I expected them to do. Some are just better at it. Practice makes perfect. Really, any of you think the government is ever honest to you. Sheesh man.
February 15, 20179 yr Shouldn't we hold this administration(and any administration, for that matter) responsible for blatant lie after lie they tell to the American people. Do they really think we are this damn stupid? I mean, things we know are untruths roll off the tongues of Spicer and Conway on a daily basis. Off camera, do they just burst out laughing at how gullible people are to their lies, whether it's a whopper about national security or one about crowd size? Isn't this what we were supposedly fed up with- lying politicians? It appears that Washington will always be "Lie Lie Land." 2018 isn't that far off... Both sides of the aisle are completely out of control. Trump's people just don't seem to have the experience yet in being able to be subtle about it, plus the watchdogs are watching a lot closer.
February 15, 20179 yr Author Good discussion thus far. So, as one poster indicated, is it our expectation that our representatives will tell us lie after lie? Should we expect honesty? Does a politician have to lie to us in order to be successful?
February 15, 20179 yr We should expect and demand honesty. When they all do it and you cant get the millions upon millions of low information voters to help vote them out, what can you do about it?
February 15, 20179 yr Who should be doing the demanding? We, the voting public, have no motivation beyond sticking it to the other side when we vote. If we don't demand it, how can we expect those we vote for to do so?
February 15, 20179 yr Always amusing as heck when the proverbial shoe is on the other foot. Yes....It is!
February 15, 20179 yr Always amusing as heck when the proverbial shoe is on the other foot. Still cant admit that barry had the most corrupt administration ever huh?
February 15, 20179 yr Still cant admit that barry had the most corrupt administration ever huh? I didn't know he was involved in the Grant administration. :eek:
February 15, 20179 yr Since Bill Clinton won the Presidency in 1992 on "read my lips...no new taxes" after Bush senior compromised on his tax bill, any competent politician would think twice about compromising or even blinking in the face of opposition. That is the sad state of our politics today.
February 15, 20179 yr News flash: politicians lie, always have, always will. If either side of the arguement really thought they would act different I need to have you evaluated. Its what they do and I expected them to do. Some are just better at it. Practice makes perfect. Really, any of you think the government is ever honest to you. Sheesh man. I recall you saying the exact same thing in the past.
February 15, 20179 yr I recall you saying the exact same thing in the past. Yep, don't trust the government no matter who is in charge. Our needs are secondary to theirs.
February 15, 20179 yr Since Bill Clinton won the Presidency in 1992 on "read my lips...no new taxes" after Bush senior compromised on his tax bill, any competent politician would think twice about compromising or even blinking in the face of opposition. That is the sad state of our politics today. This is a great point. HW lost the election after he compromised with Democrats and they used it against him.
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