Republican Primary Debate (CNBC)

[hidinout]

Kinda refreshing to see such a diverse group of nominees . All with good strengths and ideas . As opposed to the D side where people are running harder away from debate than towards honest debate . I love Carly , Rubio , and tonight Cruz was very good .

[Michael Corleone]

John Harwood hasn't done himself any favors

[Twotoplace]

Huckabee might be the best orator of the bunch. Wonder if he flew in Kim Davis as his guest.

[Hellcats]

This diverse group is getting a little old.

 

next debate needs to have top four and leave bottom ten.

[strongopenyon]

More substance in this debate than we've seen in 7 years of the Obama administration.

[Jumper_Dad]

Rubio just said he is against anything that is bad for his mother. Whoops. That's 75 percent of the GOP national platform.

You really love hyperbole, don't you?

[Twotoplace]

You really love hyperbole, don't you?

I keep preaching that party platforms matter. The platform that the GOP hammers out before next year's nominating convention should be a real doozy, especially as it applies to Social Security and Medicare.

[Hellcats]

More substance in this debate than we've seen in 7 years of the Obama administration.

 

You think so ? I thought it was 7 very similar answers and 1 outlier on each issue with Paul and Carson who didn't talk much.

[wcfan14]

Guru, how did we turn a sports thread into political jibjab?

[LIPTON BASH]

I keep preaching that party platforms matter. The platform that the GOP hammers out before next year's nominating convention should be a real doozy, especially as it applies to Social Security and Medicare.

 

Start a topic on Social Security and Medicare and let's discuss . I'm very confident on this topic. Let's see who understands.

[Twotoplace]

Start a topic on Social Security and Medicare and let's discuss . I'm very confident on this topic. Let's see who understands.

Keep your right hand on your wallet at all times, Bash. If you're under 55, look out. Paul Ryan and his GOP House henchmen are going to be knocking on your door.

[LIPTON BASH]

Keep your right hand on your wallet at all times, Bash. If you're under 55, look out. Paul Ryan and his GOP House henchmen are going to be knocking on your door.

 

Anyone with come sense under 50 is planning retirement without social security.

[Clyde]

I didn't watch but read this debate had the most substance in regards to questions. What did the moderators say to upset so many ?

[SportsGuy41017]

The Republican candidates met once again, and we found several claims worthy of fact-checking. Here are some of the highlights from the debate:

 

Former CEO Carly Fiorina claimed that 92 percent of the job losses in President Obama’s first term belonged to women, but women — and men — gained jobs by the end of Obama’s first term.

 

Businessman Donald Trump disputed the idea that he had criticized Sen. Marco Rubio and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg for supporting H-1B visas. In fact, Trump’s immigration plan, posted on his website, is critical of both of them.

 

Trump also claimed his campaign was 100 percent self-funded, but more than half of the money his campaign has raised came from supporters’ contributions.

 

Fiorina blamed the Affordable Care Act for a large disparity in firm closings versus openings every year. But closings outnumbered firm births by the widest margin in 2009, a year before the law was enacted.

 

Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson said it was “total propaganda” to say he was involved with a controversial nutritional supplement company, but he appeared in promotional videos for the company, touting its products.

 

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said that Social Security would be insolvent in seven to eight years. But even after the trust funds are exhausted — estimated to be in 14 to 19 years — the program can still pay out 73 percent of benefits for several decades.

 

Sen. Ted Cruz said women’s wages have declined under Obama, when in fact the latest figures show their wages have increased.

 

Rubio claimed CNBC’s John Harwood was wrong that a Tax Foundation analysis of his tax plan found those in the top 1 percent of earners would get nearly twice the gain as those in the middle. Harwood was right, and that’s on a percentage basis.

 

In the undercard debate, former New York Gov. George Pataki claimed the Iranians, Russians and Chinese “hacked” the private server Hillary Clinton used as secretary of state and obtained “state secrets.” There’s no evidence of that.

 

 

FactChecking the CNBC Debates

[ggclfan]

Clyde, the moderators were so over the top in trying to get candidates with "gotcha questions" that it was maddening and embarrassing. They basically took liberal talking points and accepted them as facts. More than once, candidates had to tell the moderators they were flat out wrong with the set up with their questions. For example, Rubio had to tell one of them that his charge that Rubio's tax plan helps rich folks more than the poor not only was incorrect but that the moderator had already tweeted that it his charge was incorrect before the debate...and he repeated the incorrect charge at the debate...just shameful stuff.

 

If you watched the questions the democratic candidates get at their debate and then watch what the republicans have to put up with in their debate...just not comparison. Rubio had a great line calling the liberal media the democrats Super Pac...