Should private schools be a part of the K.H.S.A.A.

[Clyde]

Sorry, only been on here for a short time and didn't know it had been discussed. I just noticed the favorite teams in the class a tournament and noticed quite a few private schools.

 

Royal, welcome to the board. Hope to hear more from you.

 

With that said, in addition to asking a valid question for discussion give us your opinion.

[Lawnboy13]

Here is the list of Kentucky Private High Schools. Unfortunately a vast majority of these schools could not compete with the minority, if you know what I mean.

 

Victory Christian Academy (Allen Co)

Christian Academy of Lawrenceburg (Anderson Co)

Glasgow Christian Academy (Barren Co)

Red Bird Missionary School (Clay Co)

Heritage Academy (Boone Co)

Bourbon Christian Academy (Bourbon Co)

Rose Hill Christian School (Boyd Co)

Danville Christian Academy (Boyle Co)

Kentucky School for the Deaf (Boyle Co)

Riverside Christian School (Breathitt Co)

Mt. Carmel High School (Breathitt Co)

Oakdale Christian Academy (Breathitt Co)

Oak Ridge Christian Academy (Butler Co)

Belmont Christian Academy (Butler Co)

Bishop Brossart (Campbell Co)

Newport Catholic (Campbell Co)

Christian Academy of Carrollton (Carroll Co)

University Heights Academy (Christian County)

Heritage Christian Academy (Christian County)

Winchester Christian Academy (Clark Co)

Oneida Baptist Institute (Clay Co)

Red Bird Missionary School (Clay Co)

Manchester Christian Academy (Clay Co)

Owensboro Catholic High School (Daviess Co)

Trinity(Whitesville) High School (Daviess Co)

Majesty Christian Academy (Daviess Co)

 

Bluegrass Baptist School (Fayette Co)

Bluegrass United (Fayette Co)

Clays Mill Road Christian Academy (Fayette Co)

Lexington Catholic High School (Fayette Co)

Lexington Christian Academy (Fayette Co)

Mars Hill Academy (Fayette Co)

Sayre School (Fayette Co)

Trinity Christian Academy (Fayette Co)

 

The David School (Floyd Co)

The Piarist School (Floyd Co)

Frankfort Christian Academy (Franklin Co)

Fellowship Christian Academy (Garrard Co)

Elizabethtown Christian Academy (Hardin Co)

North Hardin Christian Academy (Hardin Co)

 

The Academy for Individual Excellence, Louisville

Assumption High School, Louisville

Beth Haven Christian School, Louisville

Christian Academy of Louisville, Louisville

Christian Educational Consortium, Louisville

DeSales High School, Louisville

Evangel Christian School, Louisville

Highlands Latin School, Louisville

Holy Angels Academy, Louisville

Holy Cross High School, Louisville

Kentucky Country Day School, Louisville

Louisville Collegiate School, Louisville

Maryville Christian Academy of Hope, Louisville

Mercy Academy, Louisville

Nur Islamic School of Louisville

On Fire Christian Academy, Louisville

Portland Christian School, Louisville

Presentation Academy, Louisville

Sacred Heart Academy, Louisville

Sayers Classical Academy, Louisville

St. Francis High School, Louisville

St. Xavier High School, Louisville

Trinity High School, Louisville

Walden School, Louisville

Whitefield Academy, Louisville

 

Calvary Christian School (Kenton Co)

Community Christian Academy (Kenton Co)

Covington Catholic High School (Kenton Co)

Covington Latin High School (Kenton Co)

Holy Cross High School (Kenton Co)

Notre Dame Academy (Kenton Co)

St. Henry District High School (Kenton Co)

Villa Madonna Academy (Kenton Co)

June Buchanan School (Knott Co)

Cornerstone Christian School (Laurel Co)

Beattyville Christian Academy (Lee Co)

Grace Baptist Academy (Lee Co)

Bluegrass Christian School (Madison Co)

Christian Fellowship School (Marshall Co)

St. Patrick High School (Mason Co)

Community Christian Academy (McCracken Co)

St. Mary High School (McCracken Co)

Bethlehem High School (Nelson Co)

Bluegrass Christian Academy (Nelson Co)

Nelson County Baptist Church-School (Nelson Co)

St. Francis Academy (Pike Co)

Somerset Christian School (Pulaski Co)

Lakeside Christian Academy (Rowan Co)

Farmers Christian Academy (Rowan Co)

Rowan County Christian Academy (Rowan Co)

Cornerstone Christian Academy (Shelby Co)

Corpus Christi High School (Shelby Co)

Anchored Christian School (Warren Co)

[ThrillVille Cardinal51]

No! Imagine all of the state championships CCH would have in basketball! Seeing us win championships in watered down competition would help me sleep at night. I might even start pooping solid again.

[B-Ball-fan]

Community Christian Academy (Kenton Co)

 

That's a new one on me. Who knew? :idunno:

 

Just discovered that they are located in Independence, Ky. I don't see them or some of the other KCAA teams listed at KHSAA.org. Their website lead me to a ranking of the KCAA league.

 

The Kentucky Christian Athletic Association

 

1. Cornerstone 9-0

2. Community 5-1

3. North Hardin 6-1

4 Trinity 3-1

5 Somerset 3-2

6 Academy 4-3

7 Heritage 1-2

8 Highlands 5-6

9 Blue Grass 2-2

10 Holy Angels 4-5

 

Best of The Rest:

 

Bethel

MICAH

Glasgow

Lakeside

Sayers

 

Lawnboy13... How are you aware of some of these teams?

 

Some of the team's names are the same as other Schools in the state (example: Highlands, Trinity etc...)

[FRONT OF THE RIM]

Sorry, only been on here for a short time and didn't know it had been discussed. I just noticed the favorite teams in the class a tournament and noticed quite a few private schools.

So I guess the way to eliminate this is just get rid of them. Sounds logical.

[Jim Schue]

Here is the list of Kentucky Private High Schools. Unfortunately a vast majority of these schools could not compete with the minority, if you know what I mean.

 

Victory Christian Academy (Allen Co)

Christian Academy of Lawrenceburg (Anderson Co)

Glasgow Christian Academy (Barren Co)

Red Bird Missionary School (Clay Co)

Heritage Academy (Boone Co)

Bourbon Christian Academy (Bourbon Co)

Rose Hill Christian School (Boyd Co)

Danville Christian Academy (Boyle Co)

Kentucky School for the Deaf (Boyle Co)

Riverside Christian School (Breathitt Co)

Mt. Carmel High School (Breathitt Co)

Oakdale Christian Academy (Breathitt Co)

Oak Ridge Christian Academy (Butler Co)

Belmont Christian Academy (Butler Co)

Bishop Brossart (Campbell Co)

Newport Catholic (Campbell Co)

Christian Academy of Carrollton (Carroll Co)

University Heights Academy (Christian County)

Heritage Christian Academy (Christian County)

Winchester Christian Academy (Clark Co)

Oneida Baptist Institute (Clay Co)

Red Bird Missionary School (Clay Co)

Manchester Christian Academy (Clay Co)

Owensboro Catholic High School (Daviess Co)

Trinity(Whitesville) High School (Daviess Co)

Majesty Christian Academy (Daviess Co)

 

Bluegrass Baptist School (Fayette Co)

Bluegrass United (Fayette Co)

Clays Mill Road Christian Academy (Fayette Co)

Lexington Catholic High School (Fayette Co)

Lexington Christian Academy (Fayette Co)

Mars Hill Academy (Fayette Co)

Sayre School (Fayette Co)

Trinity Christian Academy (Fayette Co)

 

The David School (Floyd Co)

The Piarist School (Floyd Co)

Frankfort Christian Academy (Franklin Co)

Fellowship Christian Academy (Garrard Co)

Elizabethtown Christian Academy (Hardin Co)

North Hardin Christian Academy (Hardin Co)

 

The Academy for Individual Excellence, Louisville

Assumption High School, Louisville

Beth Haven Christian School, Louisville

Christian Academy of Louisville, Louisville

Christian Educational Consortium, Louisville

DeSales High School, Louisville

Evangel Christian School, Louisville

Highlands Latin School, Louisville

Holy Angels Academy, Louisville

Holy Cross High School, Louisville

Kentucky Country Day School, Louisville

Louisville Collegiate School, Louisville

Maryville Christian Academy of Hope, Louisville

Mercy Academy, Louisville

Nur Islamic School of Louisville

On Fire Christian Academy, Louisville

Portland Christian School, Louisville

Presentation Academy, Louisville

Sacred Heart Academy, Louisville

Sayers Classical Academy, Louisville

St. Francis High School, Louisville

St. Xavier High School, Louisville

Trinity High School, Louisville

Walden School, Louisville

Whitefield Academy, Louisville

 

Calvary Christian School (Kenton Co)

Community Christian Academy (Kenton Co)

Covington Catholic High School (Kenton Co)

Covington Latin High School (Kenton Co)

Holy Cross High School (Kenton Co)

Notre Dame Academy (Kenton Co)

St. Henry District High School (Kenton Co)

Villa Madonna Academy (Kenton Co)

June Buchanan School (Knott Co)

Cornerstone Christian School (Laurel Co)

Beattyville Christian Academy (Lee Co)

Grace Baptist Academy (Lee Co)

Bluegrass Christian School (Madison Co)

Christian Fellowship School (Marshall Co)

St. Patrick High School (Mason Co)

Community Christian Academy (McCracken Co)

St. Mary High School (McCracken Co)

Bethlehem High School (Nelson Co)

Bluegrass Christian Academy (Nelson Co)

Nelson County Baptist Church-School (Nelson Co)

St. Francis Academy (Pike Co)

Somerset Christian School (Pulaski Co)

Lakeside Christian Academy (Rowan Co)

Farmers Christian Academy (Rowan Co)

Rowan County Christian Academy (Rowan Co)

Cornerstone Christian Academy (Shelby Co)

Corpus Christi High School (Shelby Co)

Anchored Christian School (Warren Co)

 

 

 

This trims the list down to KHSAA members. I think it's pretty accurate, but let me know if I missed anything.

 

 

Red Bird Missionary School (Clay Co)

Heritage Academy (Boone Co)

Rose Hill Christian School (Boyd Co)

Kentucky School for the Deaf (Boyle Co)

Riverside Christian School (Breathitt Co)

Bishop Brossart (Campbell Co)

Newport Catholic (Campbell Co)

University Heights Academy (Christian County)

Oneida Baptist Institute (Clay Co)

Red Bird Missionary School (Clay Co)

Owensboro Catholic High School (Daviess Co)

Trinity(Whitesville) High School (Daviess Co)

 

Lexington Catholic High School (Fayette Co)

Lexington Christian Academy (Fayette Co)

Sayre School (Fayette Co)

 

The David School (Floyd Co)

The Piarist School (Floyd Co)

North Hardin Christian Academy (Hardin Co) * not sure of their status but they’ve played some KHSAA limited schedules in the past

 

Assumption High School, Louisville

Beth Haven Christian School, Louisville

Christian Academy of Louisville, Louisville

DeSales High School, Louisville

Evangel Christian School, Louisville

Holy Cross High School, Louisville

Kentucky Country Day School, Louisville

Louisville Collegiate School, Louisville

Mercy Academy, Louisville

Portland Christian School, Louisville

Presentation Academy, Louisville

Sacred Heart Academy, Louisville

St. Francis High School, Louisville

St. Xavier High School, Louisville

Trinity High School, Louisville

Walden School, Louisville

Whitefield Academy, Louisville

 

Calvary Christian School (Kenton Co)

Covington Catholic High School (Kenton Co)

Covington Latin High School (Kenton Co)

Holy Cross High School (Kenton Co)

Notre Dame Academy (Kenton Co)

St. Henry District High School (Kenton Co)

Villa Madonna Academy (Kenton Co)

June Buchanan School (Knott Co)

 

Christian Fellowship School (Marshall Co)

St. Patrick High School (Mason Co)

Community Christian Academy (McCracken Co)

St. Mary High School (McCracken Co)

Bethlehem High School (Nelson Co)

 

Most of the Protestant Christian academies are not KHSAA members, or play at best a limited KHSAA schedule. There are exceptions, of course.

 

I think that, of these, CovCath, LexCath, Trinity, St. X, DeSales (?), CAL, Mercy, Assumption, Sacred Heart and Notre Dame are not All A Classic participants.

[tdyballgame]

Question, Do you think that private schools should be a part OF or included in the KHSAA.

 

Emphatically Yes! What happened to cause you to ask this question?

[Lawnboy13]

That's a new one on me. Who knew? :idunno:

 

Just discovered that they are located in Independence, Ky. I don't see them or some of the other KCAA teams listed at KHSAA.org. Their website lead me to a ranking of the KCAA league.

 

The Kentucky Christian Athletic Association

 

1. Cornerstone 9-0

2. Community 5-1

3. North Hardin 6-1

4 Trinity 3-1

5 Somerset 3-2

6 Academy 4-3

7 Heritage 1-2

8 Highlands 5-6

9 Blue Grass 2-2

10 Holy Angels 4-5

 

Best of The Rest:

 

Bethel

MICAH

Glasgow

Lakeside

Sayers

 

Lawnboy13... How are you aware of some of these teams?

 

Some of the team's names are the same as other Schools in the state (example: Highlands, Trinity etc...)

 

I'm just not a pretty face, this "coconut" on my shoulders holds a vast array of (useless) knowledge. :whistling: :lol:

 

The "google" machine is a powerful tool. :thumb:

[TAC]

http://khsaa.org/handbook/20132014/preface.pdf

The KHSAA does not say it is set up by public schools for public schools. It is set up to create guidelines for all students in the state of Kentucky. Not sure why a kid should not be included because he/she goes to a private school as long as that school follows the guidelines set forth. See handbook attached.

[Dlbdonn]

Question, Do you think that private schools should be a part OF or included in the KHSAA.

Where have you been the last 10 years ? This subject has been discussed on this site ad infinitum , ad nauseum .

[Theoldguy]

Sorry, only been on here for a short time and didn't know it had been discussed. I just noticed the favorite teams in the class a tournament and noticed quite a few private schools.

 

Do you know the History of the All "A" and who had a large part in making it happen? If not look at the History of the All "A" then tell me why Catholic Schools/Christian Schools should be excluded?

[RomanEmpire]

http://khsaa.org/handbook/20132014/preface.pdf The KHSAA does not say it is set up by public schools for public schools. It is set up to create guidelines for all students in the state of Kentucky. Not sure why a kid should not be included because he/she goes to a private school as long as that school follows the guidelines set forth. See handbook attached.

 

TAC, who said anything about exclusion? Would just like to see schools put in "categories" where the playing field is leveled. Two categories; one with open enrollment, one with closed. Pretty simple. Everyone knows open has a distinct advantage over closed. Said advantages should not exist. Separate them.

[hoops5]

Do you know the History of the All "A" and who had a large part in making it happen? If not look at the History of the All "A" then tell me why Catholic Schools/Christian Schools should be excluded?

 

I do not think parochial schools should be excluded from the KHSAA.

I also don't know the history of the All A. Can you give us some quick cliff notes, TOG?

[hoops5]

TAC, who said anything about exclusion? Would just like to see schools put in "categories" where the playing field is leveled. Two categories; one with open enrollment, one with closed. Pretty simple. Everyone knows open has a distinct advantage over closed. Said advantages should not exist. Separate them.

Interesting concept, RE.

[Theoldguy]

I do not think parochial schools should be excluded from the KHSAA.

I also don't know the history of the All A. Can you give us some quick cliff notes, TOG?

 

History of the All "A" Classic

The groundwork for the Kentucky All-A-Classic was formed in 1980 through the efforts of coaches like Stan Steidel of Dayton, Father Ed Heile of Covington Latin, Bill Frey of Covington Holy Cross and others. The inception of asmall school basketball tournament began in January of 1980. The first Class "A" Tournament was held at Holy Cross High School in Latonia with eight teams. In 1981 it moved to Bellevue with ten teams, all from Northern Kentucky.

The 1982 to 1989 Classic went statewide by inviting six Class A schools from around the state to compete with the ten northern Kentucky schools. In 1990 the All "A" Classic experienced a dream come true: A statewide championship tournament with sixteen boys' regional tournament winners competing in Lexington in February. Then in 1991 the All "A" Classic expanded to include the field of 16 boys' regional winners and included four girls' sectional winners competing in the statewide finals. In 1992, the statewide tournament again expanded to include eight girls' teams and in 1993 included the full complement of 16 boys and 16 girls’ teams.

The Classic is certainly much more than athletic events for basketball teams. Presently governed by the Classic Board of Control comprised from representatives of each region, statewide competitions are now held in art, academics, and cheerleading. In 2000 over $40,000 was presented to students at "A" schools in the form of scholarships through the diligent efforts of the Classic and its Board of Directors. The art competition is headed by Kevin Sullivan of Kentucky Country Day in Louisville and has drawn between 50 and 100 participants each of the past three years.

B.B. Kendrick of Ballard Memorial High School conducts the academic competition. Mr. Kendrick coordinates both the regional competitions and the state competition held in January of each year. This year's state competition will be held at the Perkins Building on the campus of Eastern Kentucky University. The top four squads receive $4,000 in scholarship grants.

The other aspect of the academic dream of the Classic is that of scholarship awards. In 2001-2002 a total of 51 recipients received $1,000 each to assist them in their endeavor to obtain a college education. This was awarded by the Classic toward individual scholarships. Over 400 applicants applied for theses scholarships in 2001-2002. This year a record number of applications is expected. The chairperson for the scholarship committee is Dave Cowden of Hancock County High School.

Cheerleading has also become an integral part of the Classic. In 2001-2002 both at-large statewide and Sweet 16 competitions were held. The at-large competition, held at Madison Central High School in Richmond, attracted approximately 20 girls, boys, and co-ed squads from throughout the state. All 32 Sweet Sixteen squads competed during the state tournament held at Eastern Kentucky University.

 

TOG on the soapbox

 

So how can you elimate schools that indeed started the Tourney?