How many false champions did we crown under the BCS system?

[Content1]

Congratulations buckeye fans. You deserve a little gloating this morning!

 

However, I would point out that under the BCS system, OSU would not have even played in a title game. This begs the question, how many false champions were crowned under the previous system?

 

Apparently, way too many!

 

FCS, Div II, NAIA, and Div III have a tournament for a reason. It will take a few more years to get FBS right considering the amount of $$$ a very small minority who has profited for years will lose. As always follow the big $$$ and learn who has put up the most resistance to a larger playoff in FBS.

 

Next step will be add a week and 4 more teams in an 8 game playoff. That will probably take an additional 2-3 years. In the meantime know proclaimed power conferences don't like being "exposed." It will be up to the non-sec,big10_______(insert your favorite conference) to prove 2014 was a fluke.

 

Look at Div III for what may take place. In the last ten years Mt. Union and Wisconsin Parkside have met in the final A LOT. Until other Div IIIs invest more into their programs, it will not change.

Edited January 14, 2015 by Content1

[Bluegrasscard]

The two BCS stafus that standout to me are Miami in 2000 and then the 3 undefeated teams.

 

If you leave out an undefeated team its obviously a potential issue. And Miami defeated FSU head to head in 2000 and yet FSU went to Championship game. And FSU lost scoring only 2 points.

 

 

 

To refresh your memory:

 

BCS controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[stickymitts]

All of them.

 

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[DragonFire]

The two BCS stafus that standout to me are Miami in 2000 and then the 3 undefeated teams.

 

If you leave out an undefeated team its obviously a potential issue. And Miami defeated FSU head to head in 2000 and yet FSU went to Championship game. And FSU lost scoring only 2 points.

 

 

 

To refresh your memory:

 

BCS controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

It's always been funny to me that everyone cries about Miami that year, but they all forget that Washington was right behind them in the polls, also had just one loss, and, you know, beat Miami head to head. What is Miami's argument that year that trumps Washington beating them head to head? Should Washington have therefore gone?

 

And this may not be you, but it is striking how alike the argument from that year is with the TCU/Baylor from this one. The furor was for Miami back then but felt like it almost leaned TCU in the current situation. The situations aren't really that different.

[Bluegrasscard]

It's always been funny to me that everyone cries about Miami that year, but they all forget that Washington was right behind them in the polls, also had just one loss, and, you know, beat Miami head to head. What is Miami's argument that year that trumps Washington beating them head to head? Should Washington have therefore gone?

 

And this may not be you, but it is striking how alike the argument from that year is with the TCU/Baylor from this one. The furor was for Miami back then but felt like it almost leaned TCU in the current situation. The situations aren't really that different.

 

Well, Miami gets their story told on 30/30, Washington does not.

 

I am not on the Miami bandwagon. Maybe if there was a committee in 2000 they would have done something similiar to this year - avoided the head to head issue by selecting Washington. With FSU's lackluster loss there would be an argument that the BCS missed in 2000.

[DragonFire]

Well, Miami gets their story told on 30/30, Washington does not.

 

I am not on the Miami bandwagon. Maybe if there was a committee in 2000 they would have done something similiar to this year - avoided the head to head issue by selecting Washington. With FSU's lackluster loss there would be an argument that the BCS missed in 2000.

 

Much gets made of the lackluster loss, but it was a 6-0 game midway through the 4th quarter. FSU was without their best WR (Minnis) and their OC Richt had taken the job at Georgia, perhaps affecting his focus. Still, it was a close, competitive game until Oklahoma went up two scores following an FSU fumble. FSU actually outgained Oklahoma.

 

Even with all that, the "miss" is that FSU was in the game, not the champion. The reality is that Oklahoma finished as the only undefeated team in the country. If it's a miss, it's only because people think Miami would have won, which is a 100% subjective opinion.

[Jim Schue]

You can't definitively say that OSU would beat TCU though. We'll never know. OSU was the best team under the format we currently have but there's no way to say they would have won against TCU, Michigan State or Baylor.

 

That's all I'm saying. I've accepted the fact that the title is tainted for just under 12 more months. Smh.

 

For that matter, who's to say Ohio State or Alabama beats Florida State? Could've just been a bad positional matchup for them against Oregon. Could say the same for Alabama against Ohio St. For all we know, Alabama might have drilled Oregon or Florida State, or vice-versa, but maybe they just didn't get the favorable matchup.

[RondoRules]

For that matter, who's to say Ohio State or Alabama beats Florida State? Could've just been a bad positional matchup for them against Oregon. Could say the same for Alabama against Ohio St. For all we know, Alabama might have drilled Oregon or Florida State, or vice-versa, but maybe they just didn't get the favorable matchup.

 

You can't use that logic unless you also attest that the NCAA Basketball champion is not a true champion. Bad matchups happen all the time.

[bugatti]

You can't use that logic unless you also attest that the NCAA Basketball champion is not a true champion. Bad matchups happen all the time.

It may be the worst tournament for crowning a champion that exists.

[RondoRules]

It may be the worst tournament for crowning a champion that exists.

 

So should we just play a round robin in both football and basketball to determine a true champion? Ohio State beat the teams ranked #1 and #2 and people still say they cannot be called a true champion.

[bugatti]

So should we just play a round robin in both football and basketball to determine a true champion? Ohio State beat the teams ranked #1 and #2 and people still say they cannot be called a true champion.

 

Not advocating for anything. Just saying that the best team of a college basketball season not always wins the single elimination tournament at the end. UConn and UK were nowhere near the two best teams last season. Pretty common knowledge. Not taking anything away from them, it is just the system we go by.

[John Anthony]

So should we just play a round robin in both football and basketball to determine a true champion? Ohio State beat the teams ranked #1 and #2 and people still say they cannot be called a true champion.

 

No just UK fans who Urban continues to make a fool of.

[bugatti]

No just UK fans who Urban continues to make a fool of.

:banghead::ohbrother::ohbrother::ohbrother:

[John Anthony]

:banghead::ohbrother::ohbrother::ohbrother:

 

Wrong by about 40 points in every prediction thread and they still can't just let it go and accept the fact that OSU won it all. They will continue to find a way to discount it and Urb will continue pulling the strings...

[dolamite]

Go to 8 teams.

 

Keep the traditional big four BCS bowls as the first round (Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Orange)

Have The Semi Final Round

Have the Championship Game

 

Start the first round the week of Christmas

Semi Finals same as this year (on New Years)

Championship same as this year (week and a half later)

 

 

No committee, but a BCS style system that chooses the top 8 teams.

 

 

 

 

Problem solved.