oneijoe Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 "I believe most private schools and independent schools do have somewhat of an advantage of a school that is simply public. But that being said, I do not feel in our state that it should be seperated." Why not?!? It would be the ONLY was to create a level playing field for ALL. Is it so important to have ONE champion that we ignore and allow to continue the competitive advantages of some programs?? :sssh: :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetoya Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 You've got to kidding me:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: If Independent Schools aren't Public Public Schools what are they? 98NCC I think your a little, well a whole lot off here:rolleyes: Who funds these schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy41017 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 OB, he is just spitting out words to see where they splatter.:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneijoe Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Just wanted to say... I was strictly playing "devil's advocate" on my last post... Though his intent was different, it seems to me 98NCCalum posts lead exactly to what he said he didn't want - seperate classifications for "advantaged" schools... :sssh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy41017 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 There are ALWAYS going to be advantages at some schools and not others, either in sports or academics. Just as Beechwood built their program 20 years ago and Boyle Co. the past 10 there will be other schools that will do the same. No need to water down an already watered down system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCH1885 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by SportsGuy41017 There are ALWAYS going to be advantages at some schools and not others, either in sports or academics. Just as Beechwood built their program 20 years ago and Boyle Co. the past 10 there will be other schools that will do the same. No need to water down an already watered down system. Good post Sportsguy. I think you hit the nail on the head with the statement that some schools wil always have an advantage over others. You can't make a level playing field by seperating public or private or even independent. Once you do that people will still cry that their program still isn't winning the state title and they want to change something else until their program does win state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98NCCalum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by Oldbird NCCAlum: How exactly can a school charge little or no tuition for an out of district kid and still pay the bills? Independent schools still get money from the state do they not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98NCCalum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by oneijoe Just wanted to say... I was strictly playing "devil's advocate" on my last post... Though his intent was different, it seems to me 98NCCalum posts lead exactly to what he said he didn't want - seperate classifications for "advantaged" schools... :sssh: No, my point was to all of you out there, saying there should be seperate classes if you make a class for Private school's you should also include or also make a class for independent schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bball Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Sounds to me like NCCalum is looking for a way to avoid Danville next year. You make it sound like Boyle and Danville are full of students from all areas of the state. Boyle has 1 player that I know of that transferred in and Danville has a transfer as well. I think you could find the other 98% of them listed on rosters from the Danville/Boyle recreation league and middle school league teams from the past several years. Danville and Boyle are champions year in and year out due to two things. Hard work. Great coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by bball Sounds to me like NCCalum is looking for a way to avoid Danville next year. You make it sound like Boyle and Danville are full of students from all areas of the state. Boyle has 1 player that I know of that transferred in and Danville has a transfer as well. I think you could find the other 98% of them listed on rosters from the Danville/Boyle recreation league and middle school league teams from the past several years. Danville and Boyle are champions year in and year out due to two things. Hard work. Great coaching. This has very little to do with singling out Boyle and Danville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98NCCalum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by bball Sounds to me like NCCalum is looking for a way to avoid Danville next year. Now that's a good one. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: And that's not what I was saying, in fact I never even brought Danville up except for listing them as an independent district, so, not eve close, read on pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98NCCalum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 In fact you can ask many people that know me, I said all along this year that if we were lucky enough to beat Beechwood, I wanted to play Danville! We were not unfortuantely but I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetoya Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by 98NCCalum Independent schools still get money from the state do they not? Just like your "so called" public schools or County Schools, Independent Schools draw their money from state and federal taxes. As a matter of fact all "public" school employees, including independent systems are considered State Employees with the same benefits, retirement, ect...... The ONLY thing that INDEPENDENT means is that the school system is seperate from the county system in which they would other wise be a part of. EX: Boyd County/Ashland Independent and Fairview Independent, Greenup County/Russell Independent and Raceland Independent, Pike County/Pikeville Independent. As far as your question at the top of this post. Money will only follow a student across district lines if there is a reciprocal agreement between the systems. In other words the student can live in another district but their money from the state will follow them to the other district. This is true with both County and Independent Districts there is NO difference! There is one exception that I can think of Busses CAN NOT cross district lines to transport out-of-district students to a school. Out-of-state students WILL always be required to pay tuition since States are not going to swap money back and forth for public education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98NCCalum Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by onetoya Just like your "so called" public schools or County Schools, Independent Schools draw their money from state and federal taxes. As a matter of fact all "public" school employees, including independent systems are considered State Employees with the same benefits, retirement, ect...... The ONLY thing that INDEPENDENT means is that the school system is seperate from the county system in which they would other wise be a part of. EX: Boyd County/Ashland Independent and Fairview Independent, Greenup County/Russell Independent and Raceland Independent, Pike County/Pikeville Independent. As far as your question at the top of this post. Money will only follow a student across district lines if there is a reciprocal agreement between the systems. In other words the student can live in another district but their money from the state will follow them to the other district. This is true with both County and Independent Districts there is NO difference! There is one exception that I can think of Busses CAN NOT cross district lines to transport out-of-district students to a school. Out-of-state students WILL always be required to pay tuition since States are not going to swap money back and forth for public education. Right, so the argument that Independent schools would not be able to function without charging a ton of moeny to out of district students does not hold water, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneijoe Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 "Danville and Boyle are champions year in and year out due to two things. Hard work. Great coaching." Add in one more thing.... growing communities with good job opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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