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Official KHSAA RPI Rankings (10/10)

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Class 6A

1. North Hardin .69018

2. Trinity .68131

3. McCracken County .63627

4. Male .60761

5. Bryan Station .59166

6. Dixie Heights .57753

7. Oldham County .56440

8. Manual .55173

9. Dunbar .55052

10. Simon Kenton .52892

 

Class 5A

1. Owensboro .70598

2. Scott County .70578

3. Southwestern .67553

4. Bowling Green .67511

5. South Warren .66067

6. Covington Catholic .64687

7. Frederick Douglass .64661

8. Greenwood .64608

9. Collins .64319

10 Graves County .63422

 

Class 4A

1. Boyle County .73270

2. Johnson Central .68103

3. Central .65592

4. Letcher County Central .64487

5. Holmes .62997

6. Corbin .61703

7. Russell County .60237

8. Lincoln County .59140

9. Hopkinsville .57916

10. Calloway County .57367

 

Class 3A

1. Russell .76797

2. Bardstown .72794

3. Elizabethtown .71332

4. Rockcastle County .66155

5. Mercer County .65786

6. Belfry .63992

7. Paducah Tilghman .62270

8. Christian Academy of Louisville  .61219

9. Ashland .61097

10. Bell County .60979

 

Class 2A

1. Mayfield .76407

2. Lexington Christian Academy. 76027

3. Hancock County .72719

4. Owensboro Catholic .72564

5. West Carter .72520

6. Somerset .72464

7. Beechwood .66914

8. Breathitt County .65846

9. Danville .65765

10. McLean County .63917

 

Class 1A

1. Louisville Holy Cross .89329

2. Pikeville .71961

3. Bethlehem .71788

4. Paintsville .69285

5. Newport Central Catholic .68525

6. Dayton .67753

7. Sayre .66594

8. Kentucky Country Day .65215

9. Crittenden County .62676

10. Russellville .57296

 

Complete RPI rankings for each class available here:

https://khsaa.org/rpi_details/?event_id=1179

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If you're thinking these look pretty wonky, that's because they are. You can thank Covid for some of that. Some teams have played 2-3 fewer games than others. 

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4 minutes ago, DevilMayCare said:

If you're thinking these look pretty wonky, that's because they are. You can thank Covid for that. Some teams have played 2-3 fewer games than others. 

Yeah, those numbers ain't right...

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Wish they would scrap these and just use Calpreps which are pretty good by end of season.

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Just now, Tigerpride94 said:

Wish they would scrap these and just use Calpreps which are pretty good by end of season.

The RPI was pretty good by the end of the season last year as well.

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Give it time. Only game where two best teams weren’t in the championship last year was 3a with desales. 

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2 minutes ago, colonel-fan said:

The RPI was pretty good by the end of the season last year as well.

I thought Calpreps was better. I don’t like how larger class teams get hurt playing lower classes and needs to be a margin of victory component.

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2 minutes ago, colonel-fan said:

The RPI was pretty good by the end of the season last year as well.

Yes and no. The KHSAA RPI leans too heavily on won loss record and not enough on strength of schedule. The SOS points you get in RPI come from playing up in class no matter how bad the team is. If a 1A or 2A team beats the worst team in 6A they get way too many points for that win. That plus just getting wins and no losses works in a team's favor. The way to schedule in RPI is schedule up against bad teams. That gets you points for wins and for playing up even though the team you play is bad. 

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32 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Yes and no. The KHSAA RPI leans too heavily on won loss record and not enough on strength of schedule. The SOS points you get in RPI come from playing up in class no matter how bad the team is. If a 1A or 2A team beats the worst team in 6A they get way too many points for that win. That plus just getting wins and no losses works in a team's favor. The way to schedule in RPI is schedule up against bad teams. That gets you points for wins and for playing up even though the team you play is bad. 

Right.  I like the concept of the RPI but it needs to be improved including calculating a running clock and at what point it happens in a game. 

We certainly can't have what @ATLCat said in this thread:

- The RPI system is flawed. Belfry in the end gains less from losing to a Top 10 overall team in Kentucky by 1-point than if they would have scheduled a team like 5A Whitley County and won by 50. I continue to think there needs to be more weight to strength of victory or strength of loss.

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35 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Yes and no. The KHSAA RPI leans too heavily on won loss record and not enough on strength of schedule. The SOS points you get in RPI come from playing up in class no matter how bad the team is. If a 1A or 2A team beats the worst team in 6A they get way too many points for that win. That plus just getting wins and no losses works in a team's favor. The way to schedule in RPI is schedule up against bad teams. That gets you points for wins and for playing up even though the team you play is bad. 

All 1A and 2A teams have the ability to schedule that weaker 6A teams. No doubt there is now an art to scheduling games to benefit your RPI. But didn't last year's state championships give us the best two teams with the exception of when the best teams were in the same district?

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IMO Franklin County not in the 4A top 10 is tragic if that was to stay that way.  What the rankings are now means nothing.  All thats matters is that they are respectable after the last week of regular season.  I thought last year the KHSAA did as good as job as they could.  Covid is throwing a wrench in this system as some teams have only played 2 games.  Still IMO this is way better than just alternating each year.  

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58 minutes ago, colonel-fan said:

The RPI was pretty good by the end of the season last year as well.

Only one State Champion, 5A CovCath, ended the season as the #1 seed.

Notable misses:

3A Champion Belfry- #6 seed

6A Champion Trinity- #4 seed

I would argue those two teams also best summarize the flaw in the RPI system. These are two teams who typically schedule UP and OUT. Meaning they will play competition stronger than the peers of their class and play outstanding out of state competition.

The RPI struggles with properly accounting for both of those factors.

Instead it rewards teams like KCD (1A #1) and Paducah Tilghman (3A #2) who find that MIDDLE IN sweet spot. If you play quality in-state teams of similar or slightly larger size that are not necessarily elite, but win more than they lose, you will greatly benefit. 

I have said before, but the greatest advice to scheduling for RPI is:

1. Don't play out of State unless you know you will win.

2. Don't play down unless you know you will win.

3. Find the teams who do well at #1 and #2 and play them.

4. Hope you aren't stuck in a large district with bad teams you have to play.

 

2019_RPI_11_4.docx

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Last year ended pretty good but CoVid will definitely skew it.  I don’t think it will matter much in the end.

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3 hours ago, colonel-fan said:

All 1A and 2A teams have the ability to schedule that weaker 6A teams. No doubt there is now an art to scheduling games to benefit your RPI. But didn't last year's state championships give us the best two teams with the exception of when the best teams were in the same district?

Example?

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2 minutes ago, snakesnot_2000 said:

Example?

One off top of my head is KCD and Lou Holy Cross both beat Southern. Now those are good 1A teams. I don’t see middle of pack or bottom 1A teams doing it.

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