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From the Enquirer blog:

 

Ramsey still at Elder

 

Doug Ramsey has not resigned as Elder football coach, contrary to rumors that have surfaced among Internet chatters.

 

"This is getting old for me," Ramsey told me today. "There's nothing going on. I just met with the (Elder) guys yesterday to talk about the offseason."

 

In other words, he plans to stay put.

 

Ramsey was more open to suggestions after the 2005 season, when Elder went 4-6 and Ramsey subsequently looked into some other jobs, including Springboro. This year, Elder went 6-4 and could be better next year, with a strong junior class that includes elite DI college prospect Kyle Rudolph at TE.

 

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CovCath coach John Rodenberg is rumored to be a top candidate for the Roger Bacon job, and the vacant Mason job has drawn Ramsey's name into that rumor mill. Ramsey to Mason, Rodenberg to Elder? Don't bet on either.

 

Some believe Ramsey is waiting for his former coach, Ken Minor, to retire at Reading. There is a natural fit there, as Ramsey still lives in Reading and his brother is AD there. But Minor, still going strong after 34 years of coaching, had Reading in the D-V playoffs this year and seems set to return.

 

Someone sent this to me earlier today. My thought...famous last words...

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From the Enquirer blog:

 

Ramsey still at Elder

 

Doug Ramsey has not resigned as Elder football coach, contrary to rumors that have surfaced among Internet chatters.

 

"This is getting old for me," Ramsey told me today. "There's nothing going on. I just met with the (Elder) guys yesterday to talk about the offseason."

 

In other words, he plans to stay put.

 

Ramsey was more open to suggestions after the 2005 season, when Elder went 4-6 and Ramsey subsequently looked into some other jobs, including Springboro. This year, Elder went 6-4 and could be better next year, with a strong junior class that includes elite DI college prospect Kyle Rudolph at TE.

 

Also:

 

CovCath coach John Rodenberg is rumored to be a top candidate for the Roger Bacon job, and the vacant Mason job has drawn Ramsey's name into that rumor mill. Ramsey to Mason, Rodenberg to Elder? Don't bet on either.

 

Some believe Ramsey is waiting for his former coach, Ken Minor, to retire at Reading. There is a natural fit there, as Ramsey still lives in Reading and his brother is AD there. But Minor, still going strong after 34 years of coaching, had Reading in the D-V playoffs this year and seems set to return.

 

A little of topic, but Minor is a great guy. Got to talk X's and O's with him recently, and he really impressed me.

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Just a quick question. I have seen on here comments made about a "Christmas Walk" Is that a football thing or is it a community parade, it sounds like a lot of football talk goes on there, just curious as to what it is. Thanks........

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Just a quick question. I have seen on here comments made about a "Christmas Walk" Is that a football thing or is it a community parade, it sounds like a lot of football talk goes on there, just curious as to what it is. Thanks........

 

It's a community event in Fort Thomas. Doesn't matter what is going on, in Fort Thomas there is always football talk.:D :thumb:

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You seem quite proud of your team's one moment of glory...per decade.

 

 

BF that is clever, maybe you can help me put up one of those cool avatars? :thumb:

 

But really I’m just trying to get to that 200th post plateau, now after however many years of being a BGP member. As for being proud you bet and certainly Ecstatic!! :banana:

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Probably too early based on two wins this year (one of which he was fortunate as heck to win) to start claiming that Rodenberg is a Highlands killer. I hope he stays at CovCath several more years so we get more shots at him and then we can pass judgement if he's our worst nightmare. He had his shot last year, with what I think was a far superior team and he lost. And there is no way I am buying 04, not with Rodenberg or even Tretzel for that matter as the head coach. Sorry about that.

 

 

LN – first off let me say I have the utmost respect for Dale and the Highlands program. Dale and I have been friends now for far too many years. By no means am I claiming that Rodenberg is a Highlands killer. I was just “sharing” what I “heard”, which happens all too much on here.

 

Regarding last year you won’t get any arguments from me, I would have liked to have seen what they could have done with the ‘05 group with that being his "second" year. I do believe that Rodenberg & his staff have demonstrated a keen ability to make adjustments. Last year they tried to straight "two platoon" with the occasional player seeing action on both sides. That hurt when it can down to the end of the season. This year Cov Cath had many more players going both ways exampled with Peter Sutton and Brandon Brown just to mention a couple. That proved to be one of the major difference makers for this years team IMO. Heck Joe C never did get his shot on offense after his injury, I still would have liked to seen how Defensive Coordinators would have chosen to matched up 4 wide with Joe, Bo, Brandon and Peter. As for ’04, I’m of the opinion that “probably” the two All State transfers never leave CCH for Fort Thomas and I’ll just leave it at that, but that’s just my opinion. I would like to think you would agree Rodenberg’s offensive scheme has demonstrated the ability to put points on the board which was “the” problem in ’04 for CCH.

 

Who’s Tretzel is he now a candidate “if” Rodenberg was to leave? :lol:

 

I was wondering and not having that good of memory, who and when was the last team that Highlands has lost "two games" to in the same year? I’m sure you may recall something as that even though it’s relatively rare.

 

Well Merry Christmas ! I think I only need a few more posts to get to that 200 mark.:banana:

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You know that D will be good with Hautman as the cordinator. Its the O im worried about, especcially up front. I heard they have some good specialty players coming up, but IMO the struggle will be at the line.

 

You know, that is the same thing that was said about the State Championship line last year, when they were just Juniors....They seemed to work out just fine.....

 

If you listened in on the CovCath Internet Radio game Tuesday night, Mark and the J-man did a half time show with the O-linemen. They all seemed to have a ball....

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LN – first off let me say I have the utmost respect for Dale and the Highlands program. Dale and I have been friends now for far too many years. By no means am I claiming that Rodenberg is a Highlands killer. I was just “sharing” what I “heard”, which happens all too much on here.

 

Regarding last year you won’t get any arguments from me, I would have liked to have seen what they could have done with the ‘05 group with that being his "second" year. I do believe that Rodenberg & his staff have demonstrated a keen ability to make adjustments. Last year they tried to straight "two platoon" with the occasional player seeing action on both sides. That hurt when it can down to the end of the season. This year Cov Cath had many more players going both ways exampled with Peter Sutton and Brandon Brown just to mention a couple. That proved to be one of the major difference makers for this years team IMO. Heck Joe C never did get his shot on offense after his injury, I still would have liked to seen how Defensive Coordinators would have chosen to matched up 4 wide with Joe, Bo, Brandon and Peter. As for ’04, I’m of the opinion that “probably” the two All State transfers never leave CCH for Fort Thomas and I’ll just leave it at that, but that’s just my opinion. I would like to think you would agree Rodenberg’s offensive scheme has demonstrated the ability to put points on the board which was “the” problem in ’04 for CCH.

 

Who’s Tretzel is he now a candidate “if” Rodenberg was to leave? :lol:

 

I was wondering and not having that good of memory, who and when was the last team that Highlands has lost "two games" to in the same year? I’m sure you may recall something as that even though it’s relatively rare.

 

Well Merry Christmas ! I think I only need a few more posts to get to that 200 mark.:banana:

 

I thought Rodenberg's decision in 06 to play some of his better players both way was a major reason for you guys winning state. It was a great coaching decision by him. Sutton, Kater, Brown and Flynn in particular playing both ways really improved your team. Again, great call by Rodenberg. And I agree with you about Castanada.

 

Can't and won't argue that if Mitchell and Stowers had stayed at CovCath and had played inspired football there, that CovCath would have given Highlands all it could have handled in 04. I thought you were stating that if Rodenberg had been the head coach, with Mitchell and Stowers on Highlands team, that CovCath would have won state in 04, and that's what I disagreed with.

 

Boyle is the only other team that I can remember (although I did not check the records) beating Highlands twice in a season (03).

 

I like Rodenberg's system and think he is a great x and o's coach. As stated above, I hope he stays at CovCath. With him at the helm, CovCath will only push us to get better, to do the little things better. Its kind of funny when I think about Rodenber's offensive system. In 05 he ran more of the spread passing offense that I thought he was known for and with an extremely mobile qb like Ellison, I can understand why he did it. This year however, from my observation, it was as much of a power run based offense as it was a passing based offense. Qb under the center, with a full back (or whatever you call the position Wise played back there). The running game took a lot of pressure off of Bleser and gave him a lot more time. Last year, Highlands could just pin their ears back and go for the qb. This year, we could not do that because of the running game. That, plus his obvious talent, made Bleser very effective this year. I think Rodenberg adapted his offensive system to his team's strengths this year and got away, with obvious success, from the spread. Do you agree or did I just not see it correctly?

 

Merry Christmas to you and I hope you and your family have some great Holidays. LN

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I believe CovCath beat Highlands twice in 94.

 

Cov Cath did beat Highlands twice in 94. I know they went to Highlands in the regular season. The late Galen Heley had a great game. Then in the playoffs Cov Cath stopped Highlands I think when the Birds were on the 10 yard line.

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I thought Rodenberg's decision in 06 to play some of his better players both way was a major reason for you guys winning state. It was a great coaching decision by him. Sutton, Kater, Brown and Flynn in particular playing both ways really improved your team. Again, great call by Rodenberg. And I agree with you about Castanada.

 

Can't and won't argue that if Mitchell and Stowers had stayed at CovCath and had played inspired football there, that CovCath would have given Highlands all it could have handled in 04. I thought you were stating that if Rodenberg had been the head coach, with Mitchell and Stowers on Highlands team, that CovCath would have won state in 04, and that's what I disagreed with.

 

Boyle is the only other team that I can remember (although I did not check the records) beating Highlands twice in a season (03).

 

I like Rodenberg's system and think he is a great x and o's coach. As stated above, I hope he stays at CovCath. With him at the helm, CovCath will only push us to get better, to do the little things better. Its kind of funny when I think about Rodenber's offensive system. In 05 he ran more of the spread passing offense that I thought he was known for and with an extremely mobile qb like Ellison, I can understand why he did it. This year however, from my observation, it was as much of a power run based offense as it was a passing based offense. Qb under the center, with a full back (or whatever you call the position Wise played back there). The running game took a lot of pressure off of Bleser and gave him a lot more time. Last year, Highlands could just pin their ears back and go for the qb. This year, we could not do that because of the running game. That, plus his obvious talent, made Bleser very effective this year. I think Rodenberg adapted his offensive system to his team's strengths this year and got away, with obvious success, from the spread. Do you agree or did I just not see it correctly?

 

Merry Christmas to you and I hope you and your family have some great Holidays. LN

 

Thanks for your response. You are one of my favorite reads on here I respect and enjoy reading your perspective.

 

As to the thread subject, I too am hoping but strongly believe that Coach Rodenberg stays at Cov. Cath, for a long time.

 

I am confident that the CCH Administration, Parents and Boosters all recognizes what Coach R and his “Staff” has accomplished in just “18 months” and not just a “State Championship”. (It took Coach Ray 12 years to get CCH their 1st Championship and in no way is that a “knock” on Lynn. In my opinion it just demonstrates what condition the program was in back in mid ‘70’s versus what it’s like today. “Five Rings” in 17 years is a tremendous achievement and know one can ever take that away from Coach Ray). I’ve heard Coach Rodenberg say many times that one of the reasons he took the CCH job was to continue to build onto the tradition that “Coach Ray” has established in Park Hills.

 

Regarding my point of more than a “Championship” you mentioned “Rodenberg’s System” and being a great x and o’s coach. (I think that speaks for itself.) Not to be overlooked but Coach R has done an outstanding job in assembling his staff most came with him from McNick, Gerry Beauchamp, Jim Hautman, Jeremiah Larbes, Mike Meiners others Coach Matt Haskamp, Jack Hering, Jeff McCarthy and Greg Popham who did not. These coaches all have been great leaders and roll models for many, my son included. As in business or athletics you will only be successful by surrounding yourself with “good people”.

 

Also Coach R brought in “Film Night” at Cov Cath which has also been a great success. What a great opportunity for parents and boosters to get a “peak under the tent”. It takes a certain type of Coach to be able to get up and review the prior game “win or lose” but with little “Johnnys” Dad or Mom, most coach’s choose not to do, some will say that’s not my job. This was something Coach R bought with him I know this is not exclusive to CCH but does happen more over in the GCL. But Coach R believes it’s a good opportunity to get parents and boosters more informed and an opportunity to “buy in” what he’s attempting to do plus deflect any negativity that may exist within the program. I have had the opportunity to hear Coach R speak many times and he is a “Great Ambassador” for CCH. Last year just after he had accepted the CCH job I shared with a “mutual friend” that If Coach R can “Coach” half as good as he can speak CCH is not going to have any regrets with this hire.

 

I recall this years CCH/Highlands game at Highlands was “Senior Day” for you guys. As was the same last year at Cov. Cath. Both ended with the same results for the home team. Personally I felt it was too much distraction from such big game. I noticed Highlands had 24 or 25 seniors as “almost always” this year. IMO successful programs win with seniors. Cov Cath had about as many as Highlands this year with 17 of those guys starting. (Another big factor to this years success) This could present a problem if you have not prepared those juniors to step up. This is another area that Coach R and his staff has done a great job is the development of CCH JV program. Like Highlands and many of the successful GCL programs, Cov. Cath now plays a full JV schedule. I think they only had one game canceled this year. Not that development of a your JV is a little thing but for the most part goes unnoticed, it doesn’t get the press if you will, but pays off big time. It allows you to reload and not rebuild. Since coming in last year Coach R and CCH staff have run separate practices for JV / Varsity and the freshman resulting in having more kids getting more opportunity to play and develop each year. You can’t have 30+ kids standing around everyday not getting a chance to play and learn. Then expect to retain them or develop them to be ready when it’s their time. This all helping to build upon a winning attitude at home as well as in the locker room and more young men wanting to be a part of “the program”. So often others on the outside look at the Highlands, Beechwood, NCC and CCH as being some how “advantaged”. I feel that one has made the other better. The coaches and the players all know “I better be working my butt off in the off season” because that is what is going on in Ft. Thomas, Ft Mitchell, Newport or Park Hills. IMO that is what separates these programs in NKY.

 

As to your observations regarding the offensive scheme ’05 versus ’06, I’m in complete agreement. Anyone’s offense should always IMO 1st be based of off what kind of QB he has. Josh has a tremendous arm, good size and good speed and is a load to bring down. Again what Coach R was able to accomplish with Josh this year was tremendous as well as scary if I’m an opposing Coach. What could he do with a young man that comes up through his system? I think Coach R really tried to limit how much Josh ran the ball early on because he was way too valuable and would be the most difficult to replace if injured. I think you did not see Josh doing much of the bootleg till playoff time. Brandon and Brent were very good plus lucky to get Brent back after his injury. A little luck never hurts. The o-line really kept getting better every week as has been mentioned before. I believe the no huddle and spread will always be Coach R’s base package. But how do you “adjust” to what the other guy is trying defend you with is what separates the good from the great.

 

When I was in school I had the opportunity to play for a few coaches back in the day as my kids like to say. The man who had the most influence on me was the “Great” Jim Connor. I often said that if I had a son, that Coach Connor was the type of coach or teacher that I’d want my son to play for. That opportunity never came. But I will say I’m proud that my son did have the opportunity to play for Coach Rodenberg, John’s a good person and a class act in addition to being a heck of a coach. John and his staff have been and continue to be very positive influence in my son’s life even though he just had a year under their leadership.

 

Merry Christmas to you and yours as well, maybe I should have broken this up and would have gotten me over the 200th post. :thumb:

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Cov Cath did beat Highlands twice in 94. I know they went to Highlands in the regular season. The late Galen Heley had a great game. Then in the playoffs Cov Cath stopped Highlands I think when the Birds were on the 10 yard line.

 

 

So three times in the last 12 years. I would say that its rare!

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I am confident that the CCH Administration, Parents and Boosters all recognizes what Coach R and his “Staff” has accomplished in just “18 months” and not just a “State Championship”. (It took Coach Ray 12 years to get CCH their 1st Championship and in no way is that a “knock” on Lynn. In my opinion it just demonstrates what condition the program was in back in mid ‘70’s versus what it’s like today. “Five Rings” in 17 years is a tremendous achievement and know one can ever take that away from Coach Ray). I’ve heard Coach Rodenberg say many times that one of the reasons he took the CCH job was to continue to build onto the tradition that “Coach Ray” has established in Park Hills.

 

Good post IT, but can you compare the ''condition'' of a program in the mid-70's (less than 10 years after it started) to a program that has been a contender, on a statewide level, since the late 80's?

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