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45 minutes ago, Walter said:

With the new system, 6 highest ranked conference champions would get in as AQ and then 6 at large selections. CFP committee will rank those 12 teams. 

So... You could have a 9-4 conference champ get in with an auto bid but be a 10-11 seed. I don't see anything wrong with that. 

I get that the top 5 conferences are in most years going to have Champs that are top 12. After realignment it is hard to see that 6th conference champ being a top 20 team let alone a realistic top 12.

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28 minutes ago, Jumper_Dad said:

I get that the top 5 conferences are in most years going to have Champs that are top 12. After realignment it is hard to see that 6th conference champ being a top 20 team let alone a realistic top 12.

UC was #8 last year as the 6th conference champ. 

Coastal, Louisiana, and Liberty were all top 20 and ranked ahead of Pac 12 champ , Oregon, last year.

Memphis was #17 as the 6th conference champ in 2019.

UCF was top 12 in 2018 and 2017. 

SMU will continue to be a top 25 team after realignment. They're recruiting at a similar level to UC right now and have landed some 4* studs that chose to stay home.

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12 minutes ago, Walter said:

UC was #8 last year as the 6th conference champ. 

Coastal, Louisiana, and Liberty were all top 20 and ranked ahead of Pac 12 champ , Oregon, last year.

Memphis was #17 as the 6th conference champ in 2019.

UCF was top 12 in 2018 and 2017. 

SMU will continue to be a top 25 team after realignment. They're recruiting at a similar level to UC right now and have landed some 4* studs that chose to stay home.

We'll see.

UC and a few other good programs from non power 5 are moving to power 5 conferences. That will weaken the quality of the 6th champ after realignment is over. There will be outliers of course. When this is all said and done, the biggest controversy most years will center around, does that 6th champ deserve to be in over a more deserving team?

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2 minutes ago, Jumper_Dad said:

We'll see.

UC and a few other good programs from non power 5 are moving to power 5 conferences. That will weaken the quality of the 6th champ after realignment is over. There will be outliers of course. When this is all said and done, the biggest controversy most years will center around, does that 6th champ deserve to be in over a more deserving team?

We're on the same page. 

I just hate that we look at a team's conference affiliation to judge a team instead of looking at the actual talent on their roster. 

Once UCF, UC, Houston, and BYU go to the B12, I think you'll see SMU, Memphis, Boise, San Diego State, and Coastal battle it out for top G5 program. 

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A few notes from Nicole Auerbach's Athletic article prior to next week's CFP meeting on Wed and Thurs to discuss future expansion of CFP and number of teams:

- G5 leagues will not support an eight-team model unless it includes a designated G5 spot, but if an eight-team model includes designated automatic qualifiers, it’s a nonstarter for both the SEC and Notre Dame.

-One potential compromise could be a 12-team model — the size preferred by the SEC and Notre Dame — with AQ spots for all Power 5 conference champions — a priority for the ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12

- ACC is the league most attached to an 8 team format with B10 right behind them

- Playoff expansion process cannot move forward until there is consensus because any changes made to the format must be unanimous and approved by the CFP board of managers

- In terms of television contracts, it’s possible that the CFP could either negotiate a deal for just the 2024 and 2025 seasons with a separate negotiation for 2026 and beyond, or tear everything up for a new deal could start as early as the 2024 season

- The thinking is to make college football’s postseason like the NFL playoffs, with multiple networks broadcasting different rounds and games to increase investment/promoting of the college games

- Big Ten is concerned about stadiums not being “winterized” and prepared to host games into December

- Concerns about Notre Dame having a competitive advantage by not playing a conference championship game

-  Commitment to Rose Bowl retaining it's kickoff time slot on New Year’s Day

- Proposed 12-team model, first-round games would be played on the campus of the higher seed. Some commissioners would support moving those games to bowl sites to incorporate more bowls into the format; others like the campus element because it would be great for fans

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4 hours ago, Walter said:

A few notes from Nicole Auerbach's Athletic article prior to next week's CFP meeting on Wed and Thurs to discuss future expansion of CFP and number of teams:

- G5 leagues will not support an eight-team model unless it includes a designated G5 spot, but if an eight-team model includes designated automatic qualifiers, it’s a nonstarter for both the SEC and Notre Dame.

-One potential compromise could be a 12-team model — the size preferred by the SEC and Notre Dame — with AQ spots for all Power 5 conference champions — a priority for the ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12

- ACC is the league most attached to an 8 team format with B10 right behind them

- Playoff expansion process cannot move forward until there is consensus because any changes made to the format must be unanimous and approved by the CFP board of managers

- In terms of television contracts, it’s possible that the CFP could either negotiate a deal for just the 2024 and 2025 seasons with a separate negotiation for 2026 and beyond, or tear everything up for a new deal could start as early as the 2024 season

- The thinking is to make college football’s postseason like the NFL playoffs, with multiple networks broadcasting different rounds and games to increase investment/promoting of the college games

- Big Ten is concerned about stadiums not being “winterized” and prepared to host games into December

- Concerns about Notre Dame having a competitive advantage by not playing a conference championship game

-  Commitment to Rose Bowl retaining it's kickoff time slot on New Year’s Day

- Proposed 12-team model, first-round games would be played on the campus of the higher seed. Some commissioners would support moving those games to bowl sites to incorporate more bowls into the format; others like the campus element because it would be great for fans

Good stuff Walter, thanks for sharing. 

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1 hour ago, theguru said:

I still would like to see 16 teams so everyone could have their special place in it all and a handful of at-large teams get in based on merit. 

Another thing mentioned was some leagues/commissioners are concerned about the potential of a 17 game schedule with too much expansion. That's been another hold up on the 12 team playoff. Dates of games and length of season. 

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22 minutes ago, Walter said:

Another thing mentioned was some leagues/commissioners are concerned about the potential of a 17 game schedule with too much expansion. That's been another hold up on the 12 team playoff. Dates of games and length of season. 

I agree college teams play a lot of games but a 12 or 16 team playoff similar to most other levels of football can't be to blame for it. 

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