What is the over/under for deaths in America due to COVID-19 in 2020?

[theguru]

That would be very sad because many of those would have been preventable.

 

Every death is sad but what do you mean?

[TheDeuce]

He said what you quoted.

 

He was asked about that exact comment again tonight, where he said that those numbers were possible. He has never said that’s what he expects. Two completely different statements.

[theguru]

He was asked about that exact comment again tonight, where he said that those numbers were possible. He has never said that’s what he expects. Two completely different statements.

 

He was asked for a number and he gave a number (range).

 

Either way, I think it is safe to say "Tony" is taking the over.

[PurplePride92]

Every death is sad but what do you mean?

 

The United States and South Korea recorded their first COVID-19 deaths on the same day. As of March 31, 8:01am South Korea has 162 deaths from it. The United States has 3,173.

 

Those numbers right there imply that US deaths were/are preventable.

[Bluegrasscard]

The United States and South Korea recorded their first COVID-19 deaths on the same day. As of March 31, 8:01am South Korea has 162 deaths from it. The United States has 3,173.

 

Those numbers right there imply that US deaths were/are preventable.

 

South Korea has no equivalent to NYC/NJ - where half the "verified infected" are. The factor of population density has to be key factor when one looks at the US. In general, South Korea is not the same risk profile as the US. Also, without standards for recording deaths that are positively consistent, no numbers from any source are to be taken at face. But with face numbers it does seem SK kept their cases very low - especially in Seoul, which is different that what was is seen here. Where they able to literally roadblock Seoul early on and keep it from becoming a burning hotspot with its high density? Maybe so. If so, the lesson would be - blockade the hotspots. And to an extent that is what the states that are not yet affected seem to be doing - us, Virginia, Texas. But as Guru will likely ask - when do the planes stop flying?

 

 

Link with cases by SK region:

 

File:COVID-19 Outbreak Cases in South Korea (Density).svg - Wikimedia Commons

[PurplePride92]

South Korea has no equivalent to NYC/NJ - where half the "verified infected" are. The factor of population density has to be key factor when one looks at the US. In general, South Korea is not the same risk profile as the US. Also, without standards for recording deaths that are positively consistent, no numbers from any source are to be taken at face. But with face numbers it does seem SK kept their cases very low - especially in Seoul, which is different that what was is seen here. Where they able to literally roadblock Seoul early on and keep it from becoming a burning hotspot with its high density? Maybe so. If so, the lesson would be - blockade the hotspots. And to an extent that is what the states that are not yet affected seem to be doing - us, Virginia, Texas. But as Guru will likely ask - when do the planes stop flying?

 

 

Link with cases by SK region:

 

File:COVID-19 Outbreak Cases in South Korea (Density).svg - Wikimedia Commons

 

:lol2:

 

Okay.

[TheDeuce]

South Korea has no equivalent to NYC/NJ - where half the "verified infected" are. The factor of population density has to be key factor when one looks at the US. In general, South Korea is not the same risk profile as the US. Also, without standards for recording deaths that are positively consistent, no numbers from any source are to be taken at face. But with face numbers it does seem SK kept their cases very low - especially in Seoul, which is different that what was is seen here. Where they able to literally roadblock Seoul early on and keep it from becoming a burning hotspot with its high density? Maybe so. If so, the lesson would be - blockade the hotspots. And to an extent that is what the states that are not yet affected seem to be doing - us, Virginia, Texas. But as Guru will likely ask - when do the planes stop flying?

 

 

Link with cases by SK region:

 

File:COVID-19 Outbreak Cases in South Korea (Density).svg - Wikimedia Commons

 

While the US population is far greater than SK, Seoul is bigger than NYC, and they still only had 162 in the whole country.

 

We dropped the ball. People are dying because of it.

[Hellcats]

The United States and South Korea recorded their first COVID-19 deaths on the same day. As of March 31, 8:01am South Korea has 162 deaths from it. The United States has 3,173.

 

Those numbers right there imply that US deaths were/are preventable.

 

South Korea jumped on it early. They realized quick that if this made it to Seoul, a city of 9 million, they would be wiped out.

 

On the other hand, I read an article yesterday about a spike in reported cases in Japan after the cancellation of the Olympics suggesting the Japanese govt. was manipulating the totals. If that is true, who can you trust?

[Hellcats]

While the US population is far greater than SK, Seoul is bigger than NYC, and they still only had 162 in the whole country.

 

We dropped the ball. People are dying because of it.

 

There will be plenty of places with 162 deaths to compare before this is over.

[TheDeuce]

There will be plenty of places with 162 deaths to compare before this is over.

 

My main point was we still haven’t done what we should have, as a country, to combat the virus. Our numbers are and will reflect this.

[PurplePride92]

South Korea jumped on it early. They realized quick that if this made it to Seoul, a city of 9 million, they would be wiped out.

 

On the other hand, I read an article yesterday about a spike in reported cases in Japan after the cancellation of the Olympics suggesting the Japanese govt. was manipulating the totals. If that is true, who can you trust?

 

No one can be trusted. I’m just focusing on how it is affecting my family at this point.

[tcjkbt]

Extreme estimates, on both the low end and the high end, are unlikely to be accurate IMO. There is just so much "apples to oranges" out there and unreliable (not implying intentionally unreliable) information and data. However, I think the policy of our governments has to be to expect and prepare for the worst, even though that likely will not happen.

[Hellcats]

Extreme estimates, on both the low end and the high end, are unlikely to be accurate IMO. There is just so much "apples to oranges" out there and unreliable (not implying intentionally unreliable) information and data. However, I think the policy of our governments has to be to expect and prepare for the worst, even though that likely will not happen.

 

There was a lot of “business as usual” in Florida and Louisiana if I lived in those states I’d be ready for that high number.

[Bluegrasscard]

While the US population is far greater than SK, Seoul is bigger than NYC, and they still only had 162 in the whole country.

 

We dropped the ball. People are dying because of it.

 

 

My guess would be they sealed off Seoul early.

[theguru]

The United States and South Korea recorded their first COVID-19 deaths on the same day. As of March 31, 8:01am South Korea has 162 deaths from it. The United States has 3,173.

 

Those numbers right there imply that US deaths were/are preventable.

 

If we shutdown all year every year tens of thousands of flu deaths would be preventable too. Same with automobile fatalities. Of course we all know suicide is going to go way up, and that would have preventable too had we not shut down.