Clyde Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 2017 Noah Cunningham of North Hopkins was offered by Brescia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHS Future Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 2018 Jay Scrubb - Trinity Offers from Samford and Winthrop Verified by PureProspects :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHS Future Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Peyton Broughton added UNC-Asheville yesterday. Saw a kid I'm not familiar with got offered by Tampa (D2). Think I saw it on Hoop Dreams twitter. Verified Broughton's offer from UNC-Ashville on Verbal Commits :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoHardITP Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 There are two distinctions about offers that tend to inflate the actual offer counts that are even verified by the scouting services.. 1) At the point an offer is made it becomes static because there really is not any purpose for the retraction of an offer. So once it is out there it continues to be counted by most kids even though schools stop recruiting a player often. 2) There are offers that are made for multiple purposes and often without the intent of ever accepting a commit until much farther down the line of the recruiting cycle. The term "commitable" offer is harder to determine, but a player or coach know the difference. When you are actively recruited coaches will be at your games during the evaluation periods and in constant contact with you and it is those offers that are harder to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHS Future Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Updated August 1, 2016 2017 DeAndre ‘Pedro’ Bradshaw (Russellville) – Chattanooga, Eastern Kentucky, Morehead St., Belmont, Austin Peay, Long Beach St., E. Tennessee St., UNC-Wilmington, Lehigh, SE Missouri St., Tennessee Tech, SIUE, Ky-Wesleyan Peyton Broughton (North Laurel) – Clemson, Western Kentucky, Miami (OH), SE Missouri St., Alabama-Birmingham, Eastern Kentucky, Samford, Tennessee Tech, Toledo, Lehigh, UNC-Ashville Austin Crawford (Bracken County) – Pikeville Noah Cunningham (Madisonville-North Hopkins) – Brescia Timmy Dalton (Lawrence County) – Salem International JC Hawkins (Simon Kenton) – Christian Brothers, Union University Taveion Hollingsworth (Dunbar) – Eastern Kentucky, Morehead St., St. Louis, Wright St., Winthrop, Murray St. Tray Hollowell (University Heights) – Western Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky, Murray St., Ohio, Saint Louis, E. Tennessee St., Samford, Tennessee Tech, Jacksonville St. Tony Jackson (North Hardin) – Virginia Commonwealth, Eastern Kentucky, Northern Kentucky, Ball St., Illinois St. Luke Johnson (Lexington Catholic) – Loyola (MD) Tavin Lovan (Franklin-Simpson) – Western Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky, Murray St., Toledo, SE Missouri St., Winthrop Anthony Mathis Jr. (Kentucky Country Day) – IUPUI, Navy Sean McNeil (Cooper) – Kentucky Wesleyan, Bellarmine Chance Moore (Fern Creek) – Ball St., Samford, SE Missouri St. Anthony Nelson (Cordia) – St. John, Hofstra, E. Tennessee St., Lipscomb, UNC-Ashville, Middle Tennessee St. Jaylen Sebree (Christian County) – Indiana , Western Kentucky, Virginia Commonwealth, Tulane, Samford, Northern Kentucky, Manhattan, Xavier David Sloan (Ballard) – Louisville, Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Iowa St., Memphis, Butler, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky, Samford, SE Missouri St. Kel Stotts (Russell County) – Maryville Terry Taylor (Bowling Green) – SE Missouri St., Texas Southern Damon Tobler (Perry Co. Central) – Samford, Winthrop, Nicholis St., Tennessee Tech Chris Vogt (Graves County) – Western Kentucky, New Mexico, Ball St., Tulsa, Middle Tennessee St., Austin Peay, E. Tennessee St., Samford, Indiana St., Northern Kentucky, Southern Illinois, Evansville, SE Missouri St., Bucknell, UL-Lafayette Cole VonHandorf (Covington Catholic) – DePaul, Lipscomb, Northern Kentucky, Winthrop Connor Wilson (Ohio County) – UL-Lafayette 2018 Trevon Faulkner (Mercer County) – Middle Tennessee St., Wright State Steven Fitzgerald (Pulaski County) – North Carolina State, Middle Tennessee St., Old Dominion, Eastern Kentucky, Virginia Commonwealth, Samford, Tennessee Tech, SE Missouri St. CJ Frederick (Covington Catholic) – New Orleans, Winthrop Trey Hill (PRP) – Virginia Commonwealth, Western Kentucky Oumar Keita (Cordia) – Virginia Commonwealth Adam Kunkel (Cooper) – Samford, Central Arkansas Ramon Mercado (Cordia) – Eastern Kentucky Mickey Pearson (John Hardin) – Eastern Kentucky, Samford Ahmad Price (Fern Creek) – Samford TC Price (Lexington Catholic) – Navy, Toledo JJ Reed (Paducah Tilghman) – Samford Jay Scrubb (Trinity) – Samford, Winthrop Andrew Taylor (Corbin) – Appalachian St., Stetson, Texas-Arlington Anthony Wales (Fern Creek) – COMMITTED to Samford De’Torrion Ware (Christian County) - SE Missouri St. 2019 KyKy Tandy (University Heights) – Oklahoma 2020 Justin Powell (Trinity) – Kennesaw St., Stetson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnottieDrippen Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Sr. Sterling Hamilton from Lloyd offered by Cincy Christian, per Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 NKU offered CJ Fredrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernky Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Coastal Carolina offered Hollingsworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHS Future Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 NKU offered CJ Fredrick.Jason Frake from the Courier Journal retweeted this yesterday. :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydraman Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 There are two distinctions about offers that tend to inflate the actual offer counts that are even verified by the scouting services.. 1) At the point an offer is made it becomes static because there really is not any purpose for the retraction of an offer. So once it is out there it continues to be counted by most kids even though schools stop recruiting a player often. 2) There are offers that are made for multiple purposes and often without the intent of ever accepting a commit until much farther down the line of the recruiting cycle. The term "commitable" offer is harder to determine, but a player or coach know the difference. When you are actively recruited coaches will be at your games during the evaluation periods and in constant contact with you and it is those offers that are harder to come by. That is interesting. How sure are you that this is true? It's hard to imagine a school making an offer, the player making a verbal commit and then the school saying "we were not really serious, we take it back". Could you give an example of what your talking about? I will ask some college coaches and players I know about it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentschTrachtGottLacht Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 That is interesting. How sure are you that this is true? It's hard to imagine a school making an offer, the player making a verbal commit and then the school saying "we were not really serious, we take it back". Could you give an example of what your talking about? I will ask some college coaches and players I know about it too. @GoHardITP is 100% correct. There have been countless examples of a school offering 5 incoming JR point-guards, a kid wanting to commit (that is down the list of the 5), the school stalling and saying we need to get you here for an official, etc., then the top PG target verballing and the other 4 kids are essentially carrying an offer that they can't commit to and is basically no longer viable. That happens all of the time. Many schools / coaches make 100+ offers per class when they would only accept 5 kids into their program, sometimes it is the first 5 that say, "yes", but often it is for 5-10 they really like and 90-95 insurance policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Card Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 That is interesting. How sure are you that this is true? It's hard to imagine a school making an offer, the player making a verbal commit and then the school saying "we were not really serious, we take it back". Could you give an example of what your talking about? I will ask some college coaches and players I know about it too. I'm with GoHardITP on this. Each coach/team has their "wish list" of kids they want but by no means are these the only kids they are watching, or possibly offering. I also feel that both sides typically play this game and to some extent both parties are actually hedging their bets. The player is hoping they get an offer from the school they like best and the school is also hoping that the kid they like best accepts their offer.... if not, it's onto the next one on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoHardITP Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 That is interesting. How sure are you that this is true? It's hard to imagine a school making an offer, the player making a verbal commit and then the school saying "we were not really serious, we take it back". Could you give an example of what your talking about? I will ask some college coaches and players I know about it too. Others have answered your question well, but let me add that there is a decorum of diplomatic communication so nobody is going to look insincere or evil if a kid who has received an offer tries to commit and is turned down. There are ample ways to plausibly suggest how circumstances have caused a situation that prevents accepting a commit. Colleges usually only have 3-4 spots annually and those are spread on positional needs. The easy answer is suggesting that position of the player wanting to commit has been filled or a transfer is coming in making it no longer a position being recruited in the class. But I could think of ten ways to let someone down gently and it never turns ugly. Are kids disappointed at times...sure they are. But so are coaches in the process which makes the offering kids at a pace much greater than that of available spots a game within itself. It is more difficult for the bystander to determine, but when you see schools at prospects games or in frequent contact with the player it is a better indicator of whether the offer is serious or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousCoach Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 That is interesting. How sure are you that this is true? It's hard to imagine a school making an offer, the player making a verbal commit and then the school saying "we were not really serious, we take it back". Could you give an example of what your talking about? I will ask some college coaches and players I know about it too. Schools may offer a kid early based on their potential but by the time signing day rolls around, that offer is no longer valid. I've coached kids in the past who got multiple D1 offers but by the time it came to sign the paperwork, they may only have 1 or 2 choices. I had a kid 2 years ago that got an offer from an in state school after the first weekend in July. The offer came from an assistant. The head coach came and watched the kid each of the next two weeks and they stopped recruiting the kid because he "didn't play hard enough". The kid wound up still getting his college paid for through basketball so all is well, but that's an example. Additionally, they may only have a certain number of offers for position groups. If Samford has 2 guard spots to fill in 2018, they already took the commitment from Wales so they will only take one more guard. They've probably offered 8-10 other guards in 2018. First to commit gets it. Everyone else is still in the market and looking for a a school. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDAWGS19 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Updated August 1, 2016 2017 DeAndre ‘Pedro’ Bradshaw (Russellville) – Chattanooga, Eastern Kentucky, Morehead St., Belmont, Austin Peay, Long Beach St., E. Tennessee St., UNC-Wilmington, Lehigh, SE Missouri St., Tennessee Tech, SIUE, Ky-Wesleyan Peyton Broughton (North Laurel) – Clemson, Western Kentucky, Miami (OH), SE Missouri St., Alabama-Birmingham, Eastern Kentucky, Samford, Tennessee Tech, Toledo, Lehigh, UNC-Ashville Austin Crawford (Bracken County) – Pikeville Noah Cunningham (Madisonville-North Hopkins) – Brescia Timmy Dalton (Lawrence County) – Salem International JC Hawkins (Simon Kenton) – Christian Brothers, Union University Taveion Hollingsworth (Dunbar) – Eastern Kentucky, Morehead St., St. Louis, Wright St., Winthrop, Murray St. Tray Hollowell (University Heights) – Western Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky, Murray St., Ohio, Saint Louis, E. Tennessee St., Samford, Tennessee Tech, Jacksonville St. Tony Jackson (North Hardin) – Virginia Commonwealth, Eastern Kentucky, Northern Kentucky, Ball St., Illinois St. Luke Johnson (Lexington Catholic) – Loyola (MD) Tavin Lovan (Franklin-Simpson) – Western Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky, Murray St., Toledo, SE Missouri St., Winthrop Anthony Mathis Jr. (Kentucky Country Day) – IUPUI, Navy Sean McNeil (Cooper) – Kentucky Wesleyan, Bellarmine Chance Moore (Fern Creek) – Ball St., Samford, SE Missouri St. Anthony Nelson (Cordia) – St. John, Hofstra, E. Tennessee St., Lipscomb, UNC-Ashville, Middle Tennessee St. Jaylen Sebree (Christian County) – Indiana , Western Kentucky, Virginia Commonwealth, Tulane, Samford, Northern Kentucky, Manhattan, Xavier David Sloan (Ballard) – Louisville, Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Iowa St., Memphis, Butler, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky, Samford, SE Missouri St. Kel Stotts (Russell County) – Maryville Terry Taylor (Bowling Green) – SE Missouri St., Texas Southern Damon Tobler (Perry Co. Central) – Samford, Winthrop, Nicholis St., Tennessee Tech Chris Vogt (Graves County) – Western Kentucky, New Mexico, Ball St., Tulsa, Middle Tennessee St., Austin Peay, E. Tennessee St., Samford, Indiana St., Northern Kentucky, Southern Illinois, Evansville, SE Missouri St., Bucknell, UL-Lafayette Cole VonHandorf (Covington Catholic) – DePaul, Lipscomb, Northern Kentucky, Winthrop Connor Wilson (Ohio County) – UL-Lafayette 2018 Trevon Faulkner (Mercer County) – Middle Tennessee St., Wright State Steven Fitzgerald (Pulaski County) – North Carolina State, Middle Tennessee St., Old Dominion, Eastern Kentucky, Virginia Commonwealth, Samford, Tennessee Tech, SE Missouri St. CJ Frederick (Covington Catholic) – New Orleans, Winthrop Trey Hill (PRP) – Virginia Commonwealth, Western Kentucky Oumar Keita (Cordia) – Virginia Commonwealth Adam Kunkel (Cooper) – Samford, Central Arkansas Ramon Mercado (Cordia) – Eastern Kentucky Mickey Pearson (John Hardin) – Eastern Kentucky, Samford Ahmad Price (Fern Creek) – Samford TC Price (Lexington Catholic) – Navy, Toledo JJ Reed (Paducah Tilghman) – Samford Jay Scrubb (Trinity) – Samford, Winthrop Andrew Taylor (Corbin) – Appalachian St., Stetson, Texas-Arlington Anthony Wales (Fern Creek) – COMMITTED to Samford De’Torrion Ware (Christian County) - SE Missouri St. 2019 KyKy Tandy (University Heights) – Oklahoma 2020 Justin Powell (Trinity) – Kennesaw St., Stetson The fact that Austin Crawford still only has one offer completely baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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