Clyde Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 We do not belong to government. Government was created by the People. Government belongs to the People. An all powerful government is at odds with personal freedom. By cheering on the greatness of government, the rights and achievements of the People are lessened. We're getting into semantics here. Govt is intermingled with our daily freedoms. That video wasn't promoting an "all powerful government." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 There have been accomplishments, and they will be mentioned a lot this week. What we won't hear is that all of these "accomplishments" are tax and spend initiatives. God help the next generations if we allow it to continue... 4M private sector jobs in the last 29 months are all "tax and spend initiatives?" You don't buy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 The video speaks volumes. I'm not upset about it but it clearly shows what they believe. Government is the alpha and the omega. It only says that to people who are looking for it to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Well, one thing is for sure, Michelle can certainly say she is better off now than she was 4 years ago. Her date nights have gone from dinner and maybe a movie in a rusted out car to dinner and the theater in New York City on Airforce One. Surely we do not begrudge the POTUS getting out on a date. We haven't become that petty, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Corleone Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 It only says that to people who are looking for it to say that. Clyde, the enitre night centered around government. It just did, if big government is to your liking then fine but don't try and act like this administration isn't all about government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Humped Camel Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 So what's your point? That Gas hasn't doubled, it was high previous, during and in all likely hood after Obama's 2nd term. It's too high and hurting the economy but it was high way before Obama and not his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Clyde, the enitre night centered around government. It just did, if big government is to your likely then fine but don't try and act like this administration isn't all about government. It did center around how govt can help. It NEVER said govt is the alpha and the omega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Corleone Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Surely we do not begrudge the POTUS getting out on a date. We haven't become that petty, right? I don't have a problem with it. I am sick of hearing, from both sides mind you, about how tough all of them have had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugatti Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I don't have a problem with it. I am sick of hearing, from both sides mind you, about how tough all of them have had it.It never ceases to amaze me how every politician came from a hard working blue-collar family that has instilled the fundamental values of America in to them. Uphill both ways to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Corleone Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 It did center around how govt can help. It NEVER said govt is the alpha and the omega. Oh my gosh, you kill me. You take one pharase and pick it to death. Every speach centered around government and it's involvement. Every success story involved the government. We are all a member of the government, the government this, the government that. Like I said if that's the country you want, great have at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Corleone Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 That Gas hasn't doubled, it was high previous, during and in all likely hood after Obama's 2nd term. It's too high and hurting the economy but it was high way before Obama and not his fault. So gas hasn't doubled since 7 months before Obama took office, that we have established. Do you still want to claim the Dow has doubled? Because the Dow was at 11,800 in July of 2008 and 13,000 in May of 2008. I just want to understand. It looks to me like you use which ever date suits you best. July 2008 for gas and March 2009 for the Dow. Just seems pretty inconsistent and misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarBeyondDriven Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Red Carpet for Solyndra Figure at Democratic Convention - ABC News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I will say one thing is a fact, both political party conventions speakers are full of crap. With all this new found enthusiasm go lower the debt and get our economy on track, work together to get our country back to greatness. Agreed. I can co-sign this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 A friend of mine opened a tool and die shop several years ago. When it failed the bank took his house. As far as I know the bank didn't take the white house. Who pays the mortgage on the White House? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 4M private sector jobs in the last 29 months are all "tax and spend initiatives?" You don't buy that. Per CNN 4.5 million jobs added-a number cited often by the dems. 5 million jobs lost. Net negative 500,000. Again per CNN. This President has been a failure.Michelle did nicely. I didn't care for the San Antonio major. Thought he was too scripted. I did like Ted Strickland of Ohio-say what you believe and mean it. Call out the other side if that is what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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