UKBLUE1964 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I heard about this while at work last night. We can't (USA) even patrol our own borders properly, but Congress wants to pass a $1.4 Billion dollar aid package to Mexico to help them with their border to Central America to keep Drug Cartels and Criminals out of Mexico. Are you kidding me? We can't even protect our borders. It is called the Merida Initiative. Here is a video from the State Dept. from 2/7/08 on this and a couple of articles. What is everyone thoughts on this? Video from State Dept. Council of Foreign Relations article Another article from 2/11/08 on Merida Initiative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sooner Surge Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 This is another one of those instances where I cant see the logic in our Country's frame of mind here. Its sad when the U.S will continue to focus their attention on other world affairs when there are problems here that need to be addressed first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel-fan Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 As far as the drug angle goes, the US needs to work on lessening the demand instead of trying to control the source. I would imagine the thinking goes that most of the drugs crossing into Mexico end up in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Fundamental Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 This is another one of those instances where I cant see the logic in our Country's frame of mind here. Its sad when the U.S will continue to focus their attention on other world affairs when there are problems here that need to be addressed first. I could not have said it better than myself. Did you know in Southeast Ky. the proverty index is around 80% where I live:cry::madman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHSDad Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Mexico wants control of their southern borders but feels their nothern border should be wide open. And we're giving them money for this. :fight: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Fundamental Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Good Point HHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepRock01 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Mexico wants control of their southern borders but feels their nothern border should be wide open. And we're giving them money for this. :fight: Yeah, that is what annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcesFull Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I suspect that a large portion of the money would flow through Mexico and into bank accounts in the Caymans. Given public opinion that is heavily in favor of controlling our borders, widespread bribery and kickbacks are the only explanations that I can think of to explain our elected politicians failure to take what would be popular enforcement actions. (Before anybody asks for documentation to support my conspiracty theory, let me say that I have none. If I did, I would have already taken it to the FBI.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHSDad Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 This only furthers my opinion that W is in bed with the Mexicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 That would be $711,000 per mile if that money was put on the US / Mexico border. WOW I can't help but think that could just about seal the border. I guess just too many people on both sides of the aisle have too much invested to get serious about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 $3.5 Million per mile for the mexican southern border, seems like a lot for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchs_uk9 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Mexico wants control of their southern borders but feels their nothern border should be wide open. And we're giving them money for this. :fight: Maybe they should just slide on in and become our 51st state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepRock01 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 eh hem.... Land mines.... :bunny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 This only furthers my opinion that W is in bed with the Mexicans. Then I guess it is true that Mexicans will do the work that most Americans won't:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherneck Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I could not have said it better than myself. Did you know in Southeast Ky. the proverty index is around 80% where I live:cry::madman: Honest question: why, if the poverty level is so high, don't more people move out of the region to where jobs are available? I can understand love for one's home, but given the choice between being able to work or staying at home and living in poverty, its a no brainer for me: move. People are obviously making the choice to stay and live in poverty. Do you think that one of the reason more people aren't moving to get out of poverty is because the welfare system provides enough subsistance that they can stay where they are and get by? I know some people advocate that the problem could be solved if more money flowed into the area to improve roads, the school system, stimulate economic development etc., but realistically I don't ever seeing that ever happening to the magnitude necessary. Businesses flow to where easily developable land is available. Much of eastern Ky is challenged there. They flow to where a decently sized airport is nearby. Eastern Kentucky does not have one. They flow to where there is a plentiful supply of highly educated workers. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case in much of eastern Kentucky (if we thought pouring money into the education systems was really going to work, money might help but it would take decades to get the work force needed). Building roads helps but only if it leads to an area where all the other resources are already present. In my mind its the last resource provided, not the first. Finally, I'm not intending to berate eastern Kentucky. I understand their love for their region. Heck, I love N. Ky too. But if I lost my job and could not provide for my family, I'd pick up and move in a heartbeat to where I could get a job. Thus I have a hard time understanding why people continue to live in poverty. Am I oversimplying the situation? I'm honestly looking for "the other side" so I can be better informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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