When are parents going to learn?

[jahearme]

Now you see what officials deal with on a nightly basis LBBC. It's not worth the $70 (or $60) to go call a game for officials because of parents like the ones your dealt with in your game.

[ladiesbballcoach]

Now you see what officials deal with on a nightly basis LBBC. It's not worth the $70 (or $60) to go call a game for officials because of parents like the ones your dealt with in your game.

I would probably be a reffing Nazi. If I was I did this all the time, I would have stopped the game and had them escorted out before I continued.

 

Since I was a late fill-in (happen to be standing in the wrong place at the wrong time), I let it slide by.

 

Also, not being used to it, the official I was calling with said he never noticed them. He does about 100 games a year though.

[sweet16]

Here is another sad story. I was running a little league basketball program for 3rd and 4th graders. We had HS players reffing the game. there was a parent all over this HS player about his reffing. I went over and nicely ask if he could let up on the HS kid. A few minutes later he was back on him. I went over again and asked nicely. He got rude with me and I told him this is just a LL game and this is a HS kid trying to make extra money. I went over a 3rd time and finally offered him the whistle. That finally shut him up.

 

To make the story even worse is that the coaches of the team had pizza for the team after the game because it was the last game of the year and the parent would not let their sons stay and eat.

 

Almost every parent came up to me and said thanks for saying something to him.

 

It is sad how some act at games.

[Big Game Player]

If the girl requested for her own parents to be thrown out.........they must of been pretty bad. Sad......

[MTNSportsGuy]

If the girl requested for her own parents to be thrown out.........they must of been pretty bad. Sad......

...Imagine how it must be at home.:cry:

[Ms Liberty]

You wonder why People can't just go to a game and cheer ! ! ! Not go wild.:confused:

[CCHS_Dad]

...Imagine how it must be at home.:cry:

 

 

The reality is most of the parents that I know that act this way are totally different people outside the gym or away from the ball field. For the most part they are really supportive of their children and their endeavors. Call the Jeckell and Hyde syndrome.

[doomer]

The day no parents are allowed to attend a sporting event as fans, is the day parents are no longer vocal problems....

 

 

Your are right is theory, but I hope that never becomes a proposal. It's a shame to punish the many for the actions of the few.

 

I am sure I will hear about it given the thread, but I have often thought that in a lot of games the refereeing would be better if the kids called their own fouls. I don't want to undermine the intent - all fans including parents and coaches would better serve the players by just letting the game play out.

 

I would offer one observation - shared to me by a player about a game played this summer in AAU. He stated he knew it would be a tough situation because "it was a small gym, the opponents crowd was very noisy and complained a lot. I was right, the refs. got intimidated, and every call went their way." His quote.

 

I don't want to come off as anti-ref., because it is a tough job. But if the refs. want a better audience, then concentrate on your job, and quit worrying about the crowd. Most of the coaches and fans who complain do it because they think it works!

[STRIKE3]

Your are right is theory, but I hope that never becomes a proposal. It's a shame to punish the many for the actions of the few.

 

I am sure I will hear about it given the thread, but I have often thought that in a lot of games the refereeing would be better if the kids called their own fouls. I don't want to undermine the intent - all fans including parents and coaches would better serve the players by just letting the game play out.

 

I would offer one observation - shared to me by a player about a game played this summer in AAU. He stated he knew it would be a tough situation because "it was a small gym, the opponents crowd was very noisy and complained a lot. I was right, the refs. got intimidated, and every call went their way." His quote.

 

I don't want to come off as anti-ref., because it is a tough job. But if the refs. want a better audience, then concentrate on your job, and quit worrying about the crowd. Most of the coaches and fans who complain do it because they think it works!

I agree with you and hope it never comes to fans, being not allowed to attend.

 

I've stated many times, that Officiating is a thankless job and given the pay, established by the KHSAA, I can see many saying it's not worth it or move on to other, less vocal sports.

 

Coaches have to do a bettr job, of refraining from disparaging comments and fits of rage, which in turn will eliminate the players and then hopefully, some fans. It will take efforts from each, in conjunction with Administrators, to help minimize the comments....as I don't think, it can ever be eliminated.

 

I think many cheer sections, with signs and organized cheers, are often the vocal ones or have some, who cross the line and same can be said, about parents/fans.

[doomer]

I agree with you and hope it never comes to fans, being not allowed to attend.

 

I've stated many times, that Officiating is a thankless job and given the pay, established by the KHSAA, I can see many saying it's not worth it or move on to other, less vocal sports.

 

Coaches have to do a bettr job, of refraining from disparaging comments and fits of rage, which in turn will eliminate the players and then hopefully, some fans. It will take efforts from each, in conjunction with Administrators, to help minimize the comments....as I don't think, it can ever be eliminated.

 

I think many cheer sections, with signs and organized cheers, are often the vocal ones or have some, who cross the line and same can be said, about parents/fans.

 

Good post. I would agree and recommend that a good way to address this, and it does need to be addressed every year at every school, is through school administrations who must be held responsible for game conduct of fans. This will help the referees to be able to focus better on their already difficult task.

[STRIKE3]

Good post. I would agree and recommend that a good way to address this, and it does need to be addressed every year at every school, is through school administrations who must be held responsible for game conduct of fans. This will help the referees to be able to focus better on their already difficult task.

I'll disagree with you, on the school administrators must be held responsible. They will monitor the crowd and conduct but it's the adults/students, who must be held accountable for their own actions. We make a choice to open our mouths and spew at times, so we must be accountable.

 

Most school officials, would then contact local security and have them handle any offenders. I've removed several in my time and crowds can get raucous.

[doomer]

I'll disagree with you, on the school administrators must be held responsible. They will monitor the crowd and conduct but it's the adults/students, who must be held accountable for their own actions. We make a choice to open our mouths and spew at times, so we must be accountable.

 

Most school officials, would then contact local security and have them handle any offenders. I've removed several in my time and crowds can get raucous.

 

 

I think we are in agreement, maybe just saying it differently. The school officials and the refs. have the power to do something about irreverant fans. If the school official takes a more pro-active role, the burden on the referee is reduced. None of this necessary, of course, if we all acted as mature adults at all times (guilty here:rolleyes:).

[spindoc]

Your are right is theory, but I hope that never becomes a proposal. It's a shame to punish the many for the actions of the few.

 

I am sure I will hear about it given the thread, but I have often thought that in a lot of games the refereeing would be better if the kids called their own fouls. I don't want to undermine the intent - all fans including parents and coaches would better serve the players by just letting the game play out.

 

I would offer one observation - shared to me by a player about a game played this summer in AAU. He stated he knew it would be a tough situation because "it was a small gym, the opponents crowd was very noisy and complained a lot. I was right, the refs. got intimidated, and every call went their way." His quote.

 

I don't want to come off as anti-ref., because it is a tough job. But if the refs. want a better audience, then concentrate on your job, and quit worrying about the crowd. Most of the coaches and fans who complain do it because they think it works!

I don't want to sound anti-ref either, but I will agree with you here. I coached our team at AAU nationals this summer and we had the same officials for our first two pool games, and they did an excellent job, despite the most beligerent parents from Maryland that we've ever encountered. Their attitude spilled over to the players. However, the referees kept the game under control, talked to kids when they began to jaw at each other and it was the best officiated games we had. With that said, we advanced to bracket play and we had an official who basically swallowed his whistle. We had him twice, we won the first game, but it was a football game not a basketball game, and if you want to allow parents to lose their mind, that's a perfect way to do it. I say all that to basically agree with the notion that the officials play a major role, for better or worse, in the actions of parents sometimes.

[STRIKE3]

I think we are in agreement, maybe just saying it differently. The school officials and the refs. have the power to do something about irreverent fans. If the school official takes a more pro-active role, the burden on the referee is reduced. None of this necessary, of course, if we all acted as mature adults at all times (guilty here ).

You're definitely not alone....I may have on occasion, raised my voice or used words, which one could deem inappropriate but I'm certain, I immediately apologized....:sssh:

 

We all get carried away and some, to an extent of embarrassing themselves, friends, school and unfortunately, their own children.

[The Ghost]

Well, I used to ref a little myself and I have one from a game that worked to perfection:

 

I was working with a younger official and the tap was tipped out of bounds. He got the call right and some guy from the front row yelled out "they missed one already". Now, in a freshman game (that will tell you how long ago it really was as I am really old now) there are few people there, so I took note and went about my business. He rode the kid for the whole first quarter. I was puitting the ball inbounds for the start of the second quarter (they guy just happened to be on the first row mid court) and started to talk to me and complain about the kid. I told him this: "Sir the best thing for you to do is quite down and cheer for your team and worry less about what we do". He said "I'm leaving here soon anyway". I smiled and said "I know you are"! He there proceded to ride me for about on minute and then was removed from the gym!

 

Funny story and true as well!

 

But the bottom line is that parents should encourage his/her children to respect what officials do and learn themselves that nothing they do can make the game better. It only makes the officials that actually pay attention to that stuff distracted (and believe me some of them do not need any help with that) and sometimes do an even worse job. I never paid attention to the crowd unless someone got really vulgar and then I just went over to game administration and had them take care of it. Worked well for over 20 years!

 

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