Change that we got was a Clinton Presidency 8 years later?????

[ladiesbballcoach]

http://townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2008/11/23/hillary_nomination_would_be_an_obama-nation

 

 

This appointment represents the capstone of betrayal of Obama's promise to be the "change we can believe in."

 

No longer, apparently, does he distrust Hillary's "judgment," as he did during the debates when he denounced her vote on the Iraq War resolution. Now, all is forgiven.

 

Neither Clinton nor Obama has spent five minutes conducting any aspect of foreign policy in the past. Neither has ever negotiated anything or dealt with diplomatic issues. It is the blonde leading the blind.

 

Obama in the midst of an Administration which, while he appointed it, is not his own. Rather he has now created a government staffed by Clinton people, headed by Clinton appointees, and dominated by Hillary herself.

 

Obama had all the options in the world and chose to fence himself in by appointing Hillary as Secretary of States, Clinton cabinet member Bill Richardson for Commerce, Clinton staffer Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff, Clinton buddy (and top lobbyist) Tom Daschle to HHS, and Bill's Deputy Attorney General, Eric Holder, to Justice.

 

If Obama needed any warning about how Hillary will play the game, he need only look at how she handled her appointment. She forced Obama to see her by publicly complaining that she had not heard from him. When he raised the possibility of her appointment to State, she then leaked word that it was in the works. Even the announcement of her appointment was not made by Obama but leaked by Hillary's "confidantes."

 

Hillary will be a loose cannon as Secretary of State, vindicating her own agenda rather than that of the president and burnishing her own image at every turn.

[Clyde]

The Hillary question is fair.

 

I havent heard anyone doubting the credibility of the others.

[UKPat02]

http://townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2008/11/23/hillary_nomination_would_be_an_obama-nation

 

 

This appointment represents the capstone of betrayal of Obama's promise to be the "change we can believe in."

 

No longer, apparently, does he distrust Hillary's "judgment," as he did during the debates when he denounced her vote on the Iraq War resolution. Now, all is forgiven.

 

Neither Clinton nor Obama has spent five minutes conducting any aspect of foreign policy in the past. Neither has ever negotiated anything or dealt with diplomatic issues. It is the blonde leading the blind.

 

Obama in the midst of an Administration which, while he appointed it, is not his own. Rather he has now created a government staffed by Clinton people, headed by Clinton appointees, and dominated by Hillary herself.

 

Obama had all the options in the world and chose to fence himself in by appointing Hillary as Secretary of States, Clinton cabinet member Bill Richardson for Commerce, Clinton staffer Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff, Clinton buddy (and top lobbyist) Tom Daschle to HHS, and Bill's Deputy Attorney General, Eric Holder, to Justice.

 

If Obama needed any warning about how Hillary will play the game, he need only look at how she handled her appointment. She forced Obama to see her by publicly complaining that she had not heard from him. When he raised the possibility of her appointment to State, she then leaked word that it was in the works. Even the announcement of her appointment was not made by Obama but leaked by Hillary's "confidantes."

 

Hillary will be a loose cannon as Secretary of State, vindicating her own agenda rather than that of the president and burnishing her own image at every turn.

 

That's playing pretty fast and loose with facts. Especially considering Hillary hasn't even been appointed yet.

[rockmom]

I've been searching and searching. I read an interview with someone on CNN.com this morning with someone. Whomever it was was speaking of the fact that Obama putting Hillary as SOS basically gave him the opportunity to control her. Darned if I can find that thing now, though. :ikred:

[Alabama Larry]

Lets at least give the man a chance or wait until actually serves the office.

[rockmom]

Lets at least give the man a chance or wait until actually serves the office.

 

Thanks, AL! :thumb:

[rockmom]

Ex-Bush speechwriter: Obama would control Clinton in Cabinet

[ladiesbballcoach]

Lets at least give the man a chance or wait until actually serves the office.

 

Well, then BGP would be boring if we don't have anything to discuss over the next 2 months.

 

I thought the article would lead to an interesting discussion about O's appointments. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Alabama Larry]

^^^I've got six months of Bible facts I've been saving until the election is over. That will last us until he gets in and makes some decisions. :argue:

[ladiesbballcoach]

^^^I've got six months of Bible facts I've been saving until the election is over. That will last us until he gets in and makes some decisions. :argue:

 

Let's do it.:thumb:

[outlawcoach]

When looking for people to appoint in the various offices, its hard to find a big time democrat who didnt have ties to the Clinton administration in one form or another!

[shooter]

Ex-Bush speechwriter: Obama would control Clinton in Cabinet

 

Interesting read. However, unlike Frum, I doubt that Hillary will take orders from Joe Biden. She'll have a hard enough time taking orders from Obama I don't think there's any way she'll take orders from an intellectual light-weight like Biden.

[formerkywrestler]

Obama's cabinet nominations have been perplexing and disturbing so far. I didn't support Obama at all, but I was hoping to see "change" and right now we are just getting the same recycled bodies, some of which should've been tossed out a few years ago.

[Hatz]

When looking for people to appoint in the various offices, its hard to find a big time democrat who didnt have ties to the Clinton administration in one form or another!

 

I heard a similar conversation on NPR the other day.

 

There have only been 2 Democratic Administrations in 32 years !!!

 

Most admininistrations want some level of people who "know the ropes" and have "been around this before" so they often dole out some appointments to former "experienced" people who can hit the ground running. (enough euphimisms for you? )

 

Since the Dems have had one 8 year administration since 1980 and most of Carter's people are too old to serve now, it makes logical sense that some to many early appointees are former Clinton people. Go back and see if many of the same people aren't showing up in Reagan's that were Nixon people (Haig off the top of my head) and the Bush's had ties to George Baker and others. It's par for this course. :thumb:

 

 

One final thought on the Hillary appointment. This isn't anymore shocking than Lincoln appointing his political nemesis Seward and Stanton to posts in his cabinet.

[mcpapa]

Sen. Lieberman loves the picks so far:

 

HARTFORD, Conn. – Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman took another step Tuesday toward mending his relationship with Democrats, saying that Barack Obama's actions since winning the presidency have been "just about perfect."

 

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