rockmom Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 So you honestly think he's only had one or two sermons like this? Come on... I believe that if this had been his consistent rhetoric for the last 20 years, this would not have been the first we'd have heard, not would this have been the only speech circulating and publicized. I've read and watched interviews with members of the congregation, and with clegry not associated with Trinity. I've made a point to do more than watch a video clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmom Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Here's but one of the articles I've read this week: Congregation Defends Obama's Ex-Pastor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcesFull Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I believe that if this had been his consistent rhetoric for the last 20 years, this would not have been the first we'd have heard, not would this have been the only speech circulating and publicized. I've read and watched interviews with members of the congregation, and with clegry not associated with Trinity. I've made a point to do more than watch a video clip. A video clip (singular)??? You have watched only one of the video clips? Maybe you should watch the other ones that Senator Obama eventually condemned. I have also watched interviews with members of the Trinity congregation and they have indicated that the clips are typical and that Rev. Wright speaks the truth. I also watched Rev. Wright's successor instruct members of the congregation to refuse to speak to the media last Sunday. Nobody is disputing that Trinity and Rev. Wright have not done good work in their community for the past 20 years - but that is a separate issue from whether Jeremiah Wright is a racist anti-American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run To State Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Here's but one of the articles I've read this week: Congregation Defends Obama's Ex-Pastor Seems to me that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's hatred is seeping through. "The world is only seeing this tiny piece of him," Moss said. "Right now, we are all being vilified. This isn't just about Trinity, isn't just about [Wright]. This is an attack on the African American church tradition, and that's the way we see it. This is an attempt to silence our voice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmom Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Again, I do not condone what he said. But again, I feel if he were truely a racist, this would not have been the first we'd heard of it, given the high-profile nature of his church in his community. Yet again, believe what you want, based upon the video clips. You'll understand of course, if I choose to look deeper into the story than what the media chooses to sensationalize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmom Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Seems to me that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's hatred is seeping through. "The world is only seeing this tiny piece of him," Moss said. "Right now, we are all being vilified. This isn't just about Trinity, isn't just about [Wright]. This is an attack on the African American church tradition, and that's the way we see it. This is an attempt to silence our voice." Or that the African American church feels that they're being judged on isolated instances, and that the whole story isn't being told. Frankly, who can blame them? I see little evidence in this forum, representing only a miniscule subsection of the American demographic, that leads me to believe anyone is seeking anything more than the media is feeding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run To State Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Or that the African American church feels that they're being judged on isolated instances, and that the whole story isn't being told. Frankly, who can blame them? I see little evidence in this forum, representing only a miniscule subsection of the American demographic, that leads me to believe anyone is seeking anything more than the media is feeding them.But you yourself take issue with what he said. Why then, the need to see him and his church being judged on isolated instances. Wrong is wrong, is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True blue (and gold) Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Ah heck, I would never disown you, RM. 20 years is 20 years. You have to believe this isn't all news to Barack Hussein Obama and he's likely heard worse in private. What I wonder is how much Obama agrees with him in private. Is it possible that he has heard better, too? Is it possible that is why Obama still calls him friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Nothing personal as I mean no offense, but spite would be a really stupid reason to vote for a president. I know you're above that. I guess the ":lol:" didn't make it obvious enough that I was kidding, did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run To State Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I guess the ":lol:" didn't make it obvious enough that I was kidding, did it?With you? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run To State Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Is it possible that he has heard better, too? Is it possible that is why Obama still calls him friend?Well, it's possible that I could sprout wings and fly, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True blue (and gold) Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Well, it's possible that I could sprout wings and fly, but... Why don't you want to believe in the good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habib Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Really don't care, have I not made that clear. :lol: Still funny how you didn't bring it up then. For the record, this is the first I’ve said anything about the incessant use of middle names. In fact, if you read my post I shared my reasoning for not using the middle names of any of the candidates. I will also reiterate, for the third time in this thread, that I am not bothered by the ridiculous use of the candidates' middle names, but I will continue to chuckle slightly each time I see grown men and women engage in such childish dialogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run To State Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 For the record, this is the first I’ve said anything about the incessant use of middle names. In fact, if you read my post I shared my reasoning for not using the middle names of any of the candidates. I will also reiterate, for the third time in this thread, that I am not bothered by the ridiculous use of the candidates' middle names, but I will continue to chuckle slightly each time I see grown men and women engage in such childish dialogue.And I will reiterate that if you weren't bothered by it you wouln't have brought it up and how it's funny that you didn't bring it up when I typed Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton or John Sidney McCain III. I chuckle each time someone comments on the use of middle names, so welcome to the sandbox. Here is a list of names to scoff at: John Quincy Adams William Henry Harrison James Knox Polk Ulysses Simpson Grant Rutherford Birchard Hayes James Abram Garfield Chester Alan Arthur Stephen Grover Cleveland William Howard Taft Thomas Woodrow Wilson Warren Gamaliel Harding John Calvin Coolidge Herbert Clark Hoover Franklin Delano Roosevelt Harry S. Truman Dwight David Eisenhower John Fitzgerald Kennedy Lyndon Baines Johnson Richard Milhous Nixon Gerald Rudolph Ford James Earl Carter, Jr. Ronald Wilson Reagan George Herbert Walker Bush William Jefferson Clinton George Walker Bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run To State Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Why don't you want to believe in the good?Seriously, I'm sure the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has said many good things in private as well as publicly. The problem is they're overshadowed by his racist comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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