Artificial Intelligence Creates 5A Districts

[I gotta go to work]

I'd love to see what this would look like for the Basketball/Baseball/Softball/Volleyball realignment that is going to be drafted in the next year. 

[DanvilleFan]

I've long said that using a computer would take the human element out of all kinds of district maps/pairings, whether in sports or elsewhere.

[zoneblitz24]

I would just like for this to be presented to the KHSAA just to hear what they have to say about it.  They have openly said that the names of the teams have no weight in how districts are formed just the geography.  Well they either can't read a map or they have been lying and trying to cater to certain regions for years.  I think we all know what the truth is.  

Bottom line is there are rural districts in Western KY and Eastern KY that are having to pay for their travel and food out of the fundraising they do instead of being able to spend it on the kids for equipment and uniforms.  Kids are having to drive home at 12:00 at night in communities that the drive home on backroads are 30-45 minute drives. 

This plan not only saves a majority of the 5A class a lot of money but more importantly helps keep players, coaches, and families safe from extremely long road trips.  So in my opinion the ball is in KHSAA court here.  

[common_sense_eagle]

I have been flooded with questions. Here is what I did
 

I had Chat-GPT 4 create a master code that will distribute all the teams into districts, minimizing the average distance traveled for all teams. The issue is I do not have a computer the size to calculate the number of iterations it would take to test every possible scenario. If we had access to the software, then this code would do it in no time. There were still other ways we could do it, but it would not be as easy as using this code.

To get around this obstacle, Chat-GPT 4.0 used the K-means clustering algorithm to create 4 regions based on clusters. This would be our starting point for sister districts. Chat-GPT created the clusters and sent me the results with the average travel distance for each team. In no way was CHAT-GPT saying this was going to be our 4 sister districts; it had to have a starting point for it to use the master code with fewer iterations. I did not tell it to use the K-means clustering algorithm. I didn't know that was a thing until it suggested it to me and explained what it was and why it was the best solution for the job.

I continued to command Chat-GPT 4.0 to mix teams between cluster regions as it suggested until we got the least average time of travel for each school. Now it had 4 regions with the fewest average travel time between all teams. In other words, these were the best-case scenarios for sister districts.

Then I was able to create districts from these 4 regions using the master code as my computer could now handle that many iterations.

I did not create any of this coding. I am not that smart. Chat-GPT 4 created all of the codings off my suggestion to create 8 districts with no fewer than 4 teams, but no more than 6 teams, and that would minimize the distance traveled for all parties involved. The only thing I gave it was the name of the schools and their GPS location.

My suggestion for KHSAA: Use this. If they don't trust it, then hire someone who is a GIS (Geographic Information System) expert. I am an asking-question expert with some knowledge of coding. I believe my CHAT-GPT 4 calculations are correct and I stand by them. None of us can do the calculations it is doing in the minutes it can do it. It clearly created better districts and that's not KHSAA's fault, it is just we are in a world where AI can do so much more than we can. 

[wkyfootballfan]

This is absolutely genius... which means the KHSAA will probably ignore it.  I don't see how they could though.  Their main priority is "to limit travel and fix districts by distance."  The issue is; it does not benefit the Louisville/Lexington schools.  I would love to see the KHSAA take a serious look at this and make this happen in every class.  Some of the drive times for Western Kentucky schools are absolutely ridiculous. 

[zoneblitz24]

9 hours ago, wkyfootballfan said:

This is absolutely genius... which means the KHSAA will probably ignore it.  I don't see how they could though.  Their main priority is "to limit travel and fix districts by distance."  The issue is; it does not benefit the Louisville/Lexington schools.  I would love to see the KHSAA take a serious look at this and make this happen in every class.  Some of the drive times for Western Kentucky schools are absolutely ridiculous. 

You are exactly correct about the KHSAA only caring about the Louisville and Lexington schools.  They have said for years that geography is the only thing they consider for district alignments.  If they don't use this model for the new districts then that is a lie.  Our players/coaches in Western, Central, and Eastern Kentucky are at a higher safety risk driving home late at night after these games and are spending thousands of dollars in transportation and food for their players.  I just think it is outrageous that a fan was able to sit down and create districts that make sense and people that this is suppose to be there job can't do or just refuse to do because like previously stated they only care about 2 areas in the state.

[wkyfootballfan]

14 hours ago, zoneblitz24 said:

You are exactly correct about the KHSAA only caring about the Louisville and Lexington schools.  They have said for years that geography is the only thing they consider for district alignments.  If they don't use this model for the new districts then that is a lie.  Our players/coaches in Western, Central, and Eastern Kentucky are at a higher safety risk driving home late at night after these games and are spending thousands of dollars in transportation and food for their players.  I just think it is outrageous that a fan was able to sit down and create districts that make sense and people that this is suppose to be there job can't do or just refuse to do because like previously stated they only care about 2 areas in the state.

I guess the money in those two areas are more important than player safety and common sense.  It is really sad that we put those coaches and kids through the ringer when it comes to time and travel just so Louisville and Lexington people are pleased... I mean, everyone loves to watch a highly populated 0-10 or 1-9 team make the playoffs and get beat by 50 in the first round right?  

[common_sense_eagle]

Had time to run the Algorithm on 2A. Credit to where credit is due. KHSAA proposed districts and regions are the exact same as the algorithms.

When looking at a map Fort Knox might want to play in the  Eastern Time zone in District 4. If that is the case, Crittenden County and Todd County Central are both equally distanced from the District 2 schools, (insane I know) if you had to move a team into District 2. I would imagine looking at best roads of travel would be the decision maker. This of course is all hypothetical.

[common_sense_eagle]

This might need a new thread. 2A and 4A were already in good shape. Here’s a combination of the rest of the classes. 
 

 

[common_sense_eagle]

This is using algorithms. It bases everything using its GPS coordinates and performs calculations. It works and is superior to looking at a map and guessing. These schools are closer together in these districts than the proposed Districts.

A GIS specialist is needed to take all geographical factors into account to make the districts the absolute best as possible. I’m in talks with a few guys I found online who I hope will help out. It should be pretty simple for them. Hoping to have more by next week. 

[theguru]

4 minutes ago, common_sense_eagle said:

This is using algorithms. It bases everything using its GPS coordinates and performs calculations. It works and is superior to looking at a map and guessing. These schools are closer together in these districts than the proposed Districts.

A GIS specialist is needed to take all geographical factors into account to make the districts the absolute best as possible. I’m in talks with a few guys I found online who I hope will help out. It should be pretty simple for them. Hoping to have more by next week. 

When you get a more detailed version please start a new, catch all thread, thanks!

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[mcpapa]

On 2/28/2024 at 11:47 AM, common_sense_eagle said:

I have been flooded with questions. Here is what I did
 

I had Chat-GPT 4 create a master code that will distribute all the teams into districts, minimizing the average distance traveled for all teams. The issue is I do not have a computer the size to calculate the number of iterations it would take to test every possible scenario. If we had access to the software, then this code would do it in no time. There were still other ways we could do it, but it would not be as easy as using this code.

To get around this obstacle, Chat-GPT 4.0 used the K-means clustering algorithm to create 4 regions based on clusters. This would be our starting point for sister districts. Chat-GPT created the clusters and sent me the results with the average travel distance for each team. In no way was CHAT-GPT saying this was going to be our 4 sister districts; it had to have a starting point for it to use the master code with fewer iterations. I did not tell it to use the K-means clustering algorithm. I didn't know that was a thing until it suggested it to me and explained what it was and why it was the best solution for the job.

I continued to command Chat-GPT 4.0 to mix teams between cluster regions as it suggested until we got the least average time of travel for each school. Now it had 4 regions with the fewest average travel time between all teams. In other words, these were the best-case scenarios for sister districts.

Then I was able to create districts from these 4 regions using the master code as my computer could now handle that many iterations.

I did not create any of this coding. I am not that smart. Chat-GPT 4 created all of the codings off my suggestion to create 8 districts with no fewer than 4 teams, but no more than 6 teams, and that would minimize the distance traveled for all parties involved. The only thing I gave it was the name of the schools and their GPS location.

My suggestion for KHSAA: Use this. If they don't trust it, then hire someone who is a GIS (Geographic Information System) expert. I am an asking-question expert with some knowledge of coding. I believe my CHAT-GPT 4 calculations are correct and I stand by them. None of us can do the calculations it is doing in the minutes it can do it. It clearly created better districts and that's not KHSAA's fault, it is just we are in a world where AI can do so much more than we can. 

Ah, yes. The old K-means clustering algorithm. 

[theguru]

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[ChiefSmoke]

We discussed this in our last podcast. When Coach Smith & I starting talking technology... it gets interesting. 

 

 

[common_sense_eagle]

Update: Mr. Tackett requested to see the document for 5A through Google Docs. I gave him permission to view the document after I noticed it the next day. Unfortunately, he hasn't opened it. However, I do know our regional representative for KHSAA submitted it to him directly. I don't see how he could not know about it at this point.