18 minutes ago, ChickenWyngz said:

I don't follow. How would that change transfers? 

Probably would only slightly, I feel like it’s a bigger issue than transfers. 
 

Just from my experience kids have always transferred if there was rules in place or not. ?‍♂️ 

Any rules about when the "free" transfer can happen? Can a player transfer any time? Lose in round one of the playoffs and transfer to another team that is still playing?

12 minutes ago, D1RTYBIRD said:

Probably would only slightly, I feel like it’s a bigger issue than transfers. 
 

Just from my experience kids have always transferred if there was rules in place or not. ?‍♂️ 

Gotcha. So more saying this is it's own issue and not that it would fix transfers. I was confused, which doesn't take much lol.

Very much against this. Look at what it has done in the college level. We as a society are continually supporting the idea that if you don't like your current situation then just leave instead of working your tail off to overcome it. We do this and yet want to complain about how "soft" kids are these days or that we can't develop a work force who works hard. It is the choices that we are making as adults that shape our kids and the next generation. 

Also, places with established programs will now pull in any kid who is serious about playing football at the next level. This will take away the opportunity/playing time of the students who maybe aren't as talented that are living in those districts. It will also pull the talent from schools that are trying to develop their program. As someone already said, the haves will have more, and the have nots will have less. 

6 minutes ago, BlueRaider said:

Very much against this. Look at what it has done in the college level. We as a society are continually supporting the idea that if you don't like your current situation then just leave instead of working your tail off to overcome it. We do this and yet want to complain about how "soft" kids are these days or that we can't develop a work force who works hard. It is the choices that we are making as adults that shape our kids and the next generation. 

Also, places with established programs will now pull in any kid who is serious about playing football at the next level. This will take away the opportunity/playing time of the students who maybe aren't as talented that are living in those districts. It will also pull the talent from schools that are trying to develop their program. As someone already said, the haves will have more, and the have nots will have less. 

I understand where you’re coming from but I’ve also seen kids work their tails off  and not get to play much for their “home” county team. 

10 minutes ago, BlueRaider said:

Very much against this. Look at what it has done in the college level. We as a society are continually supporting the idea that if you don't like your current situation then just leave instead of working your tail off to overcome it. We do this and yet want to complain about how "soft" kids are these days or that we can't develop a work force who works hard. It is the choices that we are making as adults that shape our kids and the next generation. 

Also, places with established programs will now pull in any kid who is serious about playing football at the next level. This will take away the opportunity/playing time of the students who maybe aren't as talented that are living in those districts. It will also pull the talent from schools that are trying to develop their program. As someone already said, the haves will have more, and the have nots will have less. 

Kids have been transferring for academic reasons for years, and I’d say there are more kids transferring for academic reasons than sports. It’s also no surprise that many of the best athletic schools are also very strong academically. Coaches leave for better situations all the time. Adults change jobs for better opportunities every day. But it’s only when we talk about sports that we feel like kids should ride out a bad situation or work harder to overcome. If anything this will get schools to get serious about getting better and putting effort and thought into all of their programs. If the school doesn’t care about or invest in the football program why shouldn’t the kid explore other options? If schools want to keep kids, then they need to start doing better for them.

17 minutes ago, BlueRaider said:

Very much against this. Look at what it has done in the college level. We as a society are continually supporting the idea that if you don't like your current situation then just leave instead of working your tail off to overcome it. We do this and yet want to complain about how "soft" kids are these days or that we can't develop a work force who works hard. It is the choices that we are making as adults that shape our kids and the next generation. 

People transfer literally all the time and nobody cares unless they play sports. Either stop transfers all together, or allow athletes to transfer like anybody else. 

So if this passes, do they Classify Basketball and Baseball? If not, it will be a Dog and Pony show.

30 minutes ago, rjs4470 said:

Kids have been transferring for academic reasons for years, and I’d say there are more kids transferring for academic reasons than sports. It’s also no surprise that many of the best athletic schools are also very strong academically. Coaches leave for better situations all the time. Adults change jobs for better opportunities every day. But it’s only when we talk about sports that we feel like kids should ride out a bad situation or work harder to overcome. If anything this will get schools to get serious about getting better and putting effort and thought into all of their programs. If the school doesn’t care about or invest in the football program why shouldn’t the kid explore other options? If schools want to keep kids, then they need to start doing better for them.

Pause for a moment and realize that, for public schools, most funding comes from the state level and is dictated by Average Daily Attendance (ADA).

Next, understand that, in this state, the AVERAGE district uses about 86% of it's ENTIRE budget on salary alone. This leaves very little for other spending, which includes athletics.

Please follow my logic for a moment. Students transfer in, ADA goes up, money goes up, more ability to invest in athletics. Students transfer out, ADA goes down, money goes down, less ability to invest in athletics.

Understand that most public schools can't miraculously materialize enough funds to compete with those that already are pumping money into athletics. And if students are allowed to transfer, it will widen the gap to create some amazing sports programs and then the rest of us.

You may be happy about that, but I am not sold. I believe students have a right to free public education and all the trimmings that come with it, including athletics. If the gap widens too much, you may start to see less and less schools have the ability to pump money into their athletics after the athletes transfer away.

 

Does a kid who has been at Cov Cath, Trinity or say STX, who has been on the fringe of playing time but hasnt made the 2 deep roation as a SR, transfer for more playing and give up the prestige of graduating from a private school in order to get more playing time?  Financially parents have a lot invested in 3 years and don't get that diploma they wanted 3 years ago. 

9 minutes ago, BirdDaddy said:

So if this passes, do they Classify Basketball and Baseball? If not, it will be a Dog and Pony show.

You are 100% correct.  CLASSIFY THE SPORTS KHSAA.  ALL THE SPORTS.  I find it incredibly naive to think this will not create an even wider disparity in athletics.  It already is not an even playing field, this makes it much, much worse.  If you want to go elsewhere, then go.  But let's be honest enough to give everyone something to play for and not just become cannon fodder.  And no, I'm NOT a give everybody a trophy type.  Far, far from it.  

2 hours ago, theguru said:

I am always for choice, I am 100% for this. 

I agree, I'm for choice as well, but those kids and families already made their choice when they enrolled originally.  Again, I think the KHSAA needs to allow some more exceptions on their list like possibly financial hardship (tough to continue to pay tuition to a private school when a parent loses their job), etc. and not just limit it to mostly change of address, but to just allow a free transfer for any reason is not ok.  It will become a feeding frenzy and I agree with TP94, the gap will most certainly widen between the elite and the rest...as if it wasn't big enough already.  You'll have HS coaches attending the 1 day college prospect camps now to find their next transfers for their program.

12 minutes ago, Unrivaled97 said:

I agree, I'm for choice as well, but those kids and families already made their choice when they enrolled originally. 

Then don't let anybody at all transfer once they enroll. 

12 minutes ago, Unrivaled97 said:

I agree, I'm for choice as well, but those kids and families already made their choice when they enrolled originally.  Again, I think the KHSAA needs to allow some more exceptions on their list like possibly financial hardship (tough to continue to pay tuition to a private school when a parent loses their job), etc. and not just limit it to mostly change of address, but to just allow a free transfer for any reason is not ok.  It will become a feeding frenzy and I agree with TP94, the gap will most certainly widen between the elite and the rest...as if it wasn't big enough already.  You'll have HS coaches attending the 1 day college prospect camps now to find their next transfers for their program.

KHSAA already had the hardship clause in their rules.  You can leave a private school 1 time for any reason, go back to your home district school and be eligible immediately, as long as you check the correct box on the forms.

I’m for this to the point of unlimited transfers. It’s high school sports not a billion dollar industry. If a kid or his/her parents thinks it’s in their best interest to go to another school to better their themselves or their future opportunities then by all means let them go. If that one transfer isn’t the answer then let them go somewhere else. If you are worried about the haves and have nots then we should be addressing why the have nots aren’t attractive options for students and student athletes instead of banning a kid from attending a school with better opportunities because of where they happen to live.