ggclfan Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Good. Hopefully he serves serious time. Totally agree Deuce. What he did cannot be called self defense...no way. It is closer to 2nd degree murder IMO than self defense. Manslaughter is probably easier to get a conviction than murder though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Totally agree Deuce. What he did cannot be called self defense...no way. It is closer to 2nd degree murder IMO than self defense. Manslaughter is probably easier to get a conviction than murder though... FWIW, George Zimmerman was acquitted of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear the Nation Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 FWIW, George Zimmerman was acquitted of both. The shooter " Zimmerman " was the aggressor or agitator in that situation also. Seems like it's pick a fight, lose fight, shoot winner, get off with no charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The shooter " Zimmerman " was the aggressor or agitator in that situation also. Seems like it's pick a fight, lose fight, shoot winner, get off with no charges. That's exactly what the Trayvon case was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear the Nation Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 That's exactly what the Trayvon case was. Yes it was plain and simple. I see almost the same situation here. Different actors same MO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Yes it was plain and simple. I see almost the same situation here. Different actors same MO. The only difference in the cases is that Zimmerman was following Trayvon. Other than that, they are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear the Nation Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The only difference in the cases is that Zimmerman was following Trayvon. Other than that, they are the same. I like the stand your ground law in some aspects. You should have the right to defend yourself. If I'm sitting in my car at a stoplight and somebody comes up and tried to yank me out my car or carjacked me with a weapon I should be able to defend myself. I would then be an innocent victim who is defending myself. What should not happen is that I have any culpability in causing the event that I am now having to defend myself against. At that point I am not an innocent victim I was part of the situation to begin with. The loophole in this law seems to give people with bad intentions the ability to go out looking for a situation or causing or escalating a situation that now allows them to use their weapons without liability. That just doesn't seem right. The shooter in this case should have been charged with felony menacing you cannot manace people in society and threaten them if you have a weapons or threaten them with a weapon. That is a crime so now on top of committing a crime he shot somebody while committing the crime, that's why the stand-your-ground law should not apply here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I like the stand your ground law in some aspects. You should have the right to defend yourself. If I'm sitting in my car at a stoplight and somebody comes up and tried to yank me out my car or carjacked me with a weapon I should be able to defend myself. I would then be an innocent victim who is defending myself. What should not happen is that I have any culpability in causing the event that I am now having to defend myself against. At that point I am not an innocent victim I was part of the situation to begin with. The loophole in this law seems to give people with bad intentions the ability to go out looking for a situation or causing or adding ingredients to a situation that now allows them to use their weapons without liability. That just doesn't seem right. Agree on all points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleluck55 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I will say from everyone I have spoken to that has a CCDW, they all agree this guy should be charged. I am having a hard time finding someone defending him. I am sure there are plenty, but I think reasonable people feel he should have been charged for all the reasons above. I am glad there was video of this or he probably doesn't get charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugatti Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I will say from everyone I have spoken to that has a CCDW, they all agree this guy should be charged. I am having a hard time finding someone defending him. I am sure there are plenty, but I think reasonable people feel he should have been charged for all the reasons above. I am glad there was video of this or he probably doesn't get charged. Yep. I think most reasonable people are on the same page here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatz Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The only difference in the cases is that Zimmerman was following Trayvon. Other than that, they are the same. Video is the biggest difference. There is evidence as to what happened while Zimmerman was the only one alive to give an ascount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Video is the biggest difference. There is evidence as to what happened while Zimmerman was the only one alive to give an ascount. That too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear the Nation Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 The shooter, Drejka did not make bail. He is charged with manslaughter and remains in jail on 100,000 bond. The sheriff's initial assessment of innocence on self defense by the statute of SYG was overridden by the State Attorney's office I believe. Shooter in Florida 'Stand Your Ground' case remains jailed on $1, bond | Fox News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleluck55 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 And the most recent case in Florida is the reason for “stand your ground”. A man forces Uber driver to stop, gets out of truck and says you know I have a pistol and I am going to shoot you. Uber driver doesn’t give him a chance. It was all caught on the Uber driver’s dash cam. As much as the guy in the original story in this thread needed to be charged, I think this guy did everything right including giving CPR to the victim until EMT arrived. Uber driver in Florida fatally shoots man who threatened him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan41 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 And the most recent case in Florida is the reason for “stand your ground”. A man forces Uber driver to stop, gets out of truck and says you know I have a pistol and I am going to shoot you. Uber driver doesn’t give him a chance. It was all caught on the Uber driver’s dash cam. As much as the guy in the original story in this thread needed to be charged, I think this guy did everything right including giving CPR to the victim until EMT arrived. Uber driver in Florida fatally shoots man who threatened him Not that it matters, but doesn't Uber have a policy against their drivers carrying firearms? Or didn't they at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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