Wireman Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 :lol2: If that isn't a perfect example of how far in over his head Stoops is, I don't know what is. If that's true (and I mean IF), I say fire them all and start over now. That's a debacle. I change my signs with my youth sports team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If that's true (and I mean IF), I say fire them all and start over now. That's a debacle. I change my signs with my youth sports team. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Matt Jones just said on KSR that a person close to Shannon Dawson says UK didn't even change their play call signs from last season and Dawson was simply telling the defensive coordinator what was coming. Ouch if that's true. It wasn't the offensive signs, it was the defensive signs they didn't change. Said it took Dawson half the game to realize it. That's why the So. Miss offense had so much success in the second half. Dawson would wait for UK to call their defense then Dawson would change the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireman Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 It wasn't the offensive signs, it was the defensive signs they didn't change. Said it took Dawson half the game to realize it. That's why the So. Miss offense had so much success in the second half. Dawson would wait for UK to call their defense then Dawson would change the play. Either way, that's really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kypride Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Either way, that's really bad. Its just one of the many things his brother Bob forgot to write down for him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireman Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I went back and listened to the KSR podcast to make sure I heard correctly. If that's true...my mind is blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 There's been a ton of discussion on Stoops $12M buyout if he's fired. According to Matt Jones the buyout if Stoops leaves on his own is $0. So Barnhart was so concerned with Stoops leaving for a better job he signs him to an extention to get him locked in and here for the long haul, yet he's not locked in. If Stoops won the NT and Bama came calling it wouldn't cost Bama or Stoops a dime for him to leave. How is that possible. MJ also said the only other coach in the SEC with that deal is Saban. To add to it they could only find 3-4 coaches nationally with that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Also Stoops has the 6th largest buyout in the SEC. Saban - $23M Bielema - $15M Sumlin - $15M Freeze - $15M Smart - $13.5M Stoops - $12M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoesGym Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I think I read that the total price tag to buy out Stoops and the rest of the staff would actually be $18 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I think I read that the total price tag to buy out Stoops and the rest of the staff would actually be $18 million. It is. My post was in regards to head coaches only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie1 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 There's been a ton of discussion on Stoops $12M buyout if he's fired. According to Matt Jones the buyout if Stoops leaves on his own is $0. So Barnhart was so concerned with Stoops leaving for a better job he signs him to an extention to get him locked in and here for the long haul, yet he's not locked in. If Stoops won the NT and Bama came calling it wouldn't cost Bama or Stoops a dime for him to leave. How is that possible. MJ also said the only other coach in the SEC with that deal is Saban. To add to it they could only find 3-4 coaches nationally with that deal. These contracts are written with recruiting in mind. This allows coaches to go into kids living rooms and say hey look, this administration is committed to winning...We have great deals as coaches and we want to be at this university ect...we are getting all new facilities... I think this has helped recruiting...problem is, we seem to have a coaching staff that can't get their act together on the field and produce competitive improving football teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 These contracts are written with recruiting in mind. This allows coaches to go into kids living rooms and say hey look, this administration is committed to winning...We have great deals as coaches and we want to be at this university ect...we are getting all new facilities... I think this has helped recruiting...problem is, we seem to have a coaching staff that can't get their act together on the field and produce competitive improving football teams. I get what you're saying but how does a contract that allows Stoops to leave with no penalty help recruiting? I would think it would hurt if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plantmanky Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I get what you're saying but how does a contract that allows Stoops to leave with no penalty help recruiting? I would think it would hurt if anything. How does Stoops continuing to recruit for this team help recruiting, answer to both, it doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 How does Stoops continuing to recruit for this team help recruiting, answer to both, it doesnt. What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie1 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I get what you're saying but how does a contract that allows Stoops to leave with no penalty help recruiting? I would think it would hurt if anything. My best guess to this is it was Barnhart's way of showing trust...with that said, I think UK fans at this moment would be glad to see him leave on his own account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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