Xtiger69 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 All this does is hurt the kids. They should be getting ready for the state but they have not even played the region finals-unbelieveable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milhouse Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 How can anyone justitify having a game cancelled or postponed? No matter who it is, they need to realize the student/athletes they just hurt by being selfish. This is towards the judge and the official. Exactly! the most selfish act I have ever heard about on the high school level! This official should be ashamed of himself!!! Know matter what he says about standing up for what is right he will never convince me it is nothing more than selfish and all about himself. You are not doing this for your livelihood! and you are not on the professional level! Think of the kids you hurt and not yourself!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalreporter Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 This is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcurtain Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Is this what high school basketball has become? A real shame. It will take away from the winners great accomplishment and people won't remember the game for what the players and coaches accomplished but for what the legal system accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malachicrunch Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Just aonther black eye for Ky high school athletics. I truly hope that the powers to be eventually realize this is supposed to be about the student athletes. The so called "adults" steering the ship have continually been way off course as to what high school athletics is about. All we ever hear about concerning Ky high school athletics is turmoil, and law suits. When will it end. :irked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Tell Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 The referee in question is one of the better refs in a county where mediocrity in officiating is accepted. So much more the shame. He was not working a game when the altercation occurred, the other involved referee was. While I hate that the referee felt the need to take legal action I still wonder why the assigner and/or the tournament directors felt that it was appropriate to change the officials in a semi-final game based on complaints from the principal and AD from J-Town. That is the incident that precipitated all of this ugliness. Had the J-Town administration not made what IMVHO was an out of line request, had the assigner for officials not caved to their pressure, had the tournament director said that the original assignments would stand none of this would have happened. Bottom line is that there is more then one adult that should be blamed for this fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyDanza Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 The referee in question is one of the better refs in a county where mediocrity in officiating is accepted. So much more the shame. He was not working a game when the altercation occurred, the other involved referee was. While I hate that the referee felt the need to take legal action I still wonder why the assigner and/or the tournament directors felt that it was appropriate to change the officials in a semi-final game based on complaints from the principal and AD from J-Town. That is the incident that precipitated all of this ugliness. Had the J-Town administration not made what IMVHO was an out of line request, had the assigner for officials not caved to their pressure, had the tournament director said that the original assignments would stand none of this would have happened. Bottom line is that there is more then one adult that should be blamed for this fiasco. J-Town is stating that they were unaware that the refs were Male grads until that day of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdirty107 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 The referee in question is one of the better refs in a county where mediocrity in officiating is accepted. So much more the shame. He was not working a game when the altercation occurred, the other involved referee was. While I hate that the referee felt the need to take legal action I still wonder why the assigner and/or the tournament directors felt that it was appropriate to change the officials in a semi-final game based on complaints from the principal and AD from J-Town. That is the incident that precipitated all of this ugliness. Had the J-Town administration not made what IMVHO was an out of line request, had the assigner for officials not caved to their pressure, had the tournament director said that the original assignments would stand none of this would have happened. Bottom line is that there is more then one adult that should be blamed for this fiasco. I think you're confusing two different situations here. While you are right that two officials were scratched from the Male-J-twon game, the ref in question was not one of them. He was, however, involved in a altercation with another ref during the sixth region game. Supposedly the ref in question, Vic Montgomery, is the one responsible for informing J-town that the two refs were Male graduates. Another ref took exception to this and Montgomery and him exchanged words, with the altercation spilling out into the Louisville Gardens arena. They were both escorted out by police and Montgomery was replaced by another official. He was then scratched from what was supposed to be last nights final because of the altercation. He filed the court injunction because he felt he was done wrong by not being allowed to ref the game. Either way you look at it, this guy is a joke. He ruined a once in a lifetime experience for some kids. I don't think you'll see him reffing many Louisville games anymore. Most teams will scratch him as soon as they see his name on there list, and rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdirty107 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Today's Courier-Journal covered the story. Here is what Supposedly happened. The incident started Friday night in the Gardens. During halftime of the DeSales-Western game, Montgomery, who was working the game, and Darrell Bailey, who was scheduled to work the evening's final game, got involved in a verbal exchange that started in the officials' locker room and carried into the arena. Both were escorted from the building. Montgomery was replaced for the second half of the DeSales-Western game, and Bailey was replaced in the Doss-Pleasure Ridge Park game. Montgomery said the issue was a rumor that he had a hand in getting two other officials removed from the J'town-Male semifinal. Darin Stanfield and Alfred Smith, both Male graduates, were taken off that game after J'town protested. Tournament directors Joe Rogers and Dan Shepard said the refs were treated like any "unruly fans" would be and ejected from the arena. Montgomery was replaced for last night's game because of the incident. "I tried to prevent this," Montgomery said. "(KHSAA assistant commissioner) Larry Boucher said he didn't want to get involved. I did what I thought was right. The filing fee was more than my ($60) game fee, so that should tell people it wasn't about Vic Montgomery. It was about standing up for what's right." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyDanza Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 This whole situation is terrible for these kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Even if the ref in question is 100% correct and truly believes what he says, I would hope he would take a step back and realize how he is making something all about him that should be 100% about the boys involved. I realize that's easy for me to say since I'm not him but I would hope I would not go the route this guy did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Tell Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 I think you're confusing two different situations here. While you are right that two officials were scratched from the Male-J-twon game, the ref in question was not one of them. He was, however, involved in a altercation with another ref during the sixth region game. Supposedly the ref in question, Vic Montgomery, is the one responsible for informing J-town that the two refs were Male graduates. Another ref took exception to this and Montgomery and him exchanged words, with the altercation spilling out into the Louisville Gardens arena. They were both escorted out by police and Montgomery was replaced by another official. He was then scratched from what was supposed to be last nights final because of the altercation. He filed the court injunction because he felt he was done wrong by not being allowed to ref the game. Either way you look at it, this guy is a joke. He ruined a once in a lifetime experience for some kids. I don't think you'll see him reffing many Louisville games anymore. Most teams will scratch him as soon as they see his name on there list, and rightfully so. And I think that you are confusing rumor with fact. I have not seen anything that states for certain Vic ever contacted anyone from J-Town. I never said that Vic was one of the scratched officials, I know he wasn't. I still believe that if the administration at J-Town would not have played paranoids that all of this ugliness would not have happened. The principal and AD at J-Town carry as much blame as any one for causing this whole situation. They should have never contacted Rip Hatfield (the scheduler for Jefferson County). It is a matter of fact that officials work games of schools they may have connections to all the time. It happens, deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdirty107 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 And I think that you are confusing rumor with fact. I have not seen anything that states for certain Vic ever contacted anyone from J-Town. I never said that Vic was one of the scratched officials, I know he wasn't. I still believe that if the administration at J-Town would not have played paranoids that all of this ugliness would not have happened. The principal and AD at J-Town carry as much blame as any one for causing this whole situation. They should have never contacted Rip Hatfield (the scheduler for Jefferson County). It is a matter of fact that officials work games of schools they may have connections to all the time. It happens, deal with it. You did say, however, that Vic wasn't working the game when the altercation happened. You are wrong on that. You can't put this on the J-town administration, either. They didn't go to the judge and get this thing postponed. It sounds like Montgomery is all about himself. If you have a problem, take it up with the KHSAA, but don't punish the kids. Does he really think he has any chance of reffing this game now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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