RomanEmpire Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Thoughts on this change? What would KY HS Football look like if this happened in KY? Top 10% will make up D1. Good or Bad? Will create 32 more tourney opportunities. Ohio to add 7th division in high school football | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 This was all about the top level schools and closing the disparity in number of students in that top level class. Prepare yourself for a deluge of "watering down competition" and "everybody is a winner" in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Waiting for the pompous ones to start berating Ohio for this.....or maybe since Ohio does it, it must be right. Either way I'm just :popcorn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Ohio now will have seven. Kentucky will have six. Way too many in both states. Attendance will continue to fall for regular season games. Tax levies will fail, and shortly everyone can pay for their own uniforms, buses and their own trophies. In a similar thread, the United States will continue to look for everything to be even in all we do while the Chinese zoom past us as the leader of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 For Ohio I like it. I think it is a good move by the OHSAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy41017 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 For Ohio I like it. I think it is a good move by the OHSAA. I agree! "For Ohio", as even with the new division they have 72 teams in the top division, and 104 in each of the other 6 divisions. KY has about 32 per class correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westsider Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I agree! "For Ohio", as even with the new division they have 72 teams in the top division, and 104 in each of the other 6 divisions. KY has about 32 per class correct?About 36-37, on average. If your math is correct, Ohio would have to go to 18 or 19 classes to be as watered-down as Kentucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpapa Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I was hoping maybe Ohio would take one or two of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEERFAN Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 About 36-37, on average. If your math is correct, Ohio would have to go to 18 or 19 classes to be as watered-down as Kentucky. That's pretty sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Here is the distribution of of the classes in Ohio. Division I – 600 to 1,164 Division II – 410 to 599 Division III – 288 to 409 Division IV – 216 to 287 Division V – 159 to 215 Division VI – 114 to 158 Division VII – 30 to 111 That is a more narrow range that what Kentucky has. For example, 1A in Kentucky includes all schools with 200 or less boys. That is broken down into nearly 3 different classes in Ohio. So while there are more schools in each class in Ohio, in some ways it is harder for many schools in Kentucky than Ohio due to the broad range of boys in each class. That 50 boy school in Ohio will not have to play a school with 190 boys like the Kentucky school will. Which would you rather do - compete against more schools closer in size or compete against fewer schools but have to beat schools with 3X the number of boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westsider Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Here is the distribution of of the classes in Ohio. Division I – 600 to 1,164 Division II – 410 to 599 Division III – 288 to 409 Division IV – 216 to 287 Division V – 159 to 215 Division VI – 114 to 158 Division VII – 30 to 111 That is a more narrow range that what Kentucky has. For example, 1A in Kentucky includes all schools with 200 or less boys. That is broken down into nearly 3 different classes in Ohio. So while there are more schools in each class in Ohio, in some ways it is harder for many schools in Kentucky than Ohio due to the broad range of boys in each class. That 50 boy school in Ohio will not have to play a school with 190 boys like the Kentucky school will. Which would you rather do - compete against more schools closer in size or compete against fewer schools but have to beat schools with 3X the number of boys? Are those three-grade or four-grade figures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Are those three-grade or four-grade figures? I don't know but it doesn't make a difference in the point I am making. The spread between the largest and smallest school in the classes is more narrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westsider Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I don't know but it doesn't make a difference in the point I am making. The spread between the largest and smallest school in the classes is more narrow.So what? Ohio is much more densely populated and has about three times the number of football schools that Kentucky does. Regardless of the enrollment differences, the classes aren't watered down by low numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 So what? Ohio is much more densely populated and has about three times the number of football schools that Kentucky does. Regardless of the enrollment differences, the classes aren't watered down by low numbers. Let me put my question another way. If you have 125 boys in your school, would you prefer competing for a state title versus 70 schools with less than 150 students or 35 schools with 190 boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westsider Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Let me put my question another way. If you have 125 boys in your school, would you prefer competing for a state title versus 70 schools with less than 150 students or 35 schools with 190 boys?If you're good enough to compete, you're good enough to compete, unless you're playing schools with several times your enrollment ... besides, some schools choose to stay as small as they are. The numbers never seem to affect Beechwood much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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