The Pope

[Hasbeen]

 

 

Jesus himself warned us not to offend small children, because their guardian angels have guaranteed intercessory access to the Father: "See that you do not despise one of these little ones; for I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven" (Matt. 18:10).

 

Thank you for that verse, somehow I had never seen it clearly to mean that there are indeed guardian angels. I checked it out in the Bibles most often used by my denomination (OK, the King James Version) and that is what it says. That is good news and I'm going to check into this further.

[5wide]

We also have access to the Holy Spirit who "intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express."

 

Excellent point...

[spindoc]

Where are we directed to pray for each ohter here among the living?

Paul only asks for prayer among the living in every book he wrote.

[Trojans]

Col 1:18 - And he (Christ) is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

 

Where is there room for the Pope? Christ is the only authority of the church!

[All Tell]

The flip side is, the more I defend the Catholic faith, the deeper my belief in the Catholic faith becomes. :lol:

 

Amen

[All Tell]

Have you never asked anyone else to pray for you or for someone in need? Asking for the prayers of Mary or the saints is no different.

 

Great point

[Hasbeen]

Have you never asked anyone else to pray for you or for someone in need? Asking for the prayers of Mary or the saints is no different.

 

Maybe it's the wording of the prayer that confuses us non-Catholics. Now, granted, most of what I know of Catholics comes from TV or Rockmom, but I wouldn't say "Hail Peprock, full of grace, blessed art thou amongst posters, intercede on my behalf .........."

 

See? It looks more like a prayer to rather than a request.

[Dlbdonn]

To me it just makes common sense to ask someone Who is as close to God as His Mother To intercede on our behalf in our prayers to Him .

[Trojans]

To me it just makes common sense to ask someone Who is as close to God as His Mother To intercede on our behalf in our prayers to Him .

 

Do you have scripture for that?

[rockmom]

Maybe it's the wording of the prayer that confuses us non-Catholics. Now, granted, most of what I know of Catholics comes from TV or Rockmom, but I wouldn't say "Hail Peprock, full of grace, blessed art thou amongst posters, intercede on my behalf .........."

 

See? It looks more like a prayer to rather than a request.

 

This is the prayer:

 

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

 

 

The prayer is a plea from us to her to intercede. We honor her. She was the Mother of Jesus, the most reverent of women chosen by God to be the mother of his son. The prayer begins with our acknowledgement of her place, her special status in God's eyes.

[rockmom]

Do you have scripture for that?

 

 

What more scripture do you need?

 

Do you pray for your family if one is ill? Is there a scripture that states "Thou shalt pray for yur family members?" No.

[Hasbeen]

The prayer is a plea from us to her to intercede. We honor her. She was the Mother of Jesus, the most reverent of women chosen by God to be the mother of his son. The prayer begins with our acknowledgement of her place, her special status in God's eyes.

 

Right, but the point was that asking her to intervene was similar to asking and Earthly friend to pray for you. Anyway, it not that important. I have a question that I am more interested in. It seems to me that Catholics, (and several other denominations for that matter) are rather anti-evangelical. Is this so and if it is, how do you justify it?

[rockmom]

Right, but the point was that asking her to intervene was similar to asking and Earthly friend to pray for you. Anyway, it not that important. I have a question that I am more interested in. It seems to me that Catholics, (and several other denominations for that matter) are rather anti-evangelical. Is this so and if it is, how do you justify it?

 

 

I'm not sure what you mean by anti-evangelical. :confused:

[Alabama Larry]

I'm not gonna say anything because I respect everyone's religion.

 

If a religion wants to handle snakes, doesn't effect me.

 

If they want women Pastors/deacons, doesn't effect me.

 

If they refuse Musical Instruments in service ^^^^.

 

If they want to speak in Tonuges ^^^^.

 

At least they have a religion. And that all that matters.

 

I'm so happy with with my posts.

 

John 3:16

[Hasbeen]

I'm not sure what you mean by anti-evangelical. :confused:

 

I've seen many references in these forums to religious denominations who actively seek out new members. Usually it is frowned upon as meddling and condemned as being judgemental. Apparently, many have had bad experiences with overzealous evangelistic sects. Many others believe that "living my life as a good person and an example" is sufficient. I've noticed in the old western movies almost every Southwestern town has a Catholic mission in it. Do you no longer actively seek converts?