7 minutes ago, 4 Quarters said:

This has already gotten crazy, will ESPN be covering the announcement?

I know a guy that knows a guy that could text a guy to see if that guy can do that!

4 hours ago, PP1 said:

If teachers attempt to break their contracts during the school year, they can have their license revoked. I've seen it before when a teacher get mad in November and leaves during Christmas, the school calls the EPSB and has their certificate pulled. 

Schools probably catch more flack if a football coach does it though.

I didn’t mean breaking their contracts.  I meant applying for another job within the same school year, to start the following fall...but, before ever teaching a class at new school B, new school C comes in and is an even better opportunity. 

Example from a football Coach perspective.

1- Johnny Coach is currently employed in January by school A.

2- Johnny Coach while employed at school A- applies, interviews and gets teaching/head coach gigs at school B in February (but will finish out the school year at school A.

3- Come May, Johnny Coach hears of school C looking for a head football coach/teacher that is closer to where he/his wife grew up + as good of a football job, teaching and equal to better Pay as school B.

4- Johnny Coach, before ever teaching/coaching a game at school B- resigns in the summer to take job at School C.

 

Or in simpler matters.  Let’s say Johnny Coach in Late May or June finally has had it- has no motivation to coach anymore (despite the efforts made to feel something different all through the offseason) and resigns from School A.

Results? Crap show.  Gets all kinds of grief

Now- let that just be those that teach and/or in SOME cases, Administration.

With that said - best of luck BW and the ‘Birds.  As crazy as it seems sometimes, the old saying usually holds true “everything works out for the best”. I hope that’s the case for both parties.

I must say, and I’d be remiss if I didn’t say this, but I saw some Highlands film this year, and I didn’t see a poorly coached (nor remotely close to that) football team.  When you watch just all of the little things? FWIW?  I saw a well coached football team.

Now - as for the two platoon deal and several kids needing to play ways? I’d agree with that.

With the social media climate, nothing is above criticism.  Hire the best guy for the program and for the players and don't worry about the criticism.  If they win, nobody will care and if they lose they will pounce on the on field issues and forget about the hiring process.  I know the "right" things have to be said and there are always hoops to jump through but in the end there is always going to be somebody that doesn't like it.  Who cares, it is impossible to please everyone. 

19 hours ago, BigErn said:

Correct, I wasn’t implying that they should be above applying. But I understand it, if that’s their guy. As is the case with any employer who is targeting someone in particular. Maybe the process is different in academia, I do not know. I was actually surprised to hear that there were applicants at all. I suppose it makes sense, but I assumed Highlands would be proactive with this and seek out candidates, as opposed to letting the coaches come to them. Again, this is not my area of expertise. I just found the dynamic interesting when someone brought up the position it puts applying coaches in. 

This reminds me of what I feel are some common misconceptions when it comes to HS football (HS sports in general) and probably more true in KY than say GA. While HS athletics have moved to look more like college in 99% of the cases they are not. We now have teams with multiple helmets, uniform combinations, hype videos, social media and facilities that are honestly better than some small colleges. The coaching search and hiring process is still pretty old school. 
 

In KY how many big or top tier coaches can the general public name? Ten or so maybe. In some cases without looking up the person people won’t even know a coaches name unless A) they are a big name or B) the team is from the same area/region. Now of those names you can eliminate probably half or more for different reasons. 
 

HS isn’t college where a team is going to pluck some up and coming OC/DC. People can name even fewer of those guys in general. The odds of getting a college guy to come down to HS is going to be rare. Now in this case a guy might see it as taking over a big time program that he might be able to use to get on a different college staff. There are of course other factors like time, family and do on that might make the change appealing at the time. You also have college guys that make less money and work more hours than a HS coach that would never leave for a HS job. 
 

Then you have guys that are extremely good coaches but because of where they coach would never get a sniff. Guys that are getting the most out of their resources and limitations of their current job environment. A lot of those guys get discounted on where they coach or preceived lack of success. 
 

All of that is a lot for someone to sift through especially when their primary job is to run a school building and a disctrict. Even colleges use headhunters and agents to help work through all of that. All of that doesn’t even take into account mobility at the HS level is difficult. It’s not like a new HC can bring in whatever staff he wants. 

1 hour ago, barrel said:

This reminds me of what I feel are some common misconceptions when it comes to HS football (HS sports in general) and probably more true in KY than say GA. While HS athletics have moved to look more like college in 99% of the cases they are not. We now have teams with multiple helmets, uniform combinations, hype videos, social media and facilities that are honestly better than some small colleges. The coaching search and hiring process is still pretty old school. 
 

In KY how many big or top tier coaches can the general public name? Ten or so maybe. In some cases without looking up the person people won’t even know a coaches name unless A) they are a big name or B) the team is from the same area/region. Now of those names you can eliminate probably half or more for different reasons. 
 

HS isn’t college where a team is going to pluck some up and coming OC/DC. People can name even fewer of those guys in general. The odds of getting a college guy to come down to HS is going to be rare. Now in this case a guy might see it as taking over a big time program that he might be able to use to get on a different college staff. There are of course other factors like time, family and do on that might make the change appealing at the time. You also have college guys that make less money and work more hours than a HS coach that would never leave for a HS job. 
 

Then you have guys that are extremely good coaches but because of where they coach would never get a sniff. Guys that are getting the most out of their resources and limitations of their current job environment. A lot of those guys get discounted on where they coach or preceived lack of success. 
 

All of that is a lot for someone to sift through especially when their primary job is to run a school building and a disctrict. Even colleges use headhunters and agents to help work through all of that. All of that doesn’t even take into account mobility at the HS level is difficult. It’s not like a new HC can bring in whatever staff he wants. 

Always amazes me that when folks hear "football coach" they honestly believe that is their sole responsibility in the school setting. Most coaches receive around 10k give or take for "extra duty" as a coach. My philosophy was always if you are being paid 50k as a teacher, AD, administrator, or whatever you better be 5 times better at that MAIN responsibility. I always stressed to young coaches to strive to be the BEST TEACHER in your school. If you are you will be a good coach, have great respect and support from other staff and the students, and a lot less likely for your district to want to part ways with you.

13 hours ago, Jack of all Trades said:

This thread just keeps evolving.  Now we are talking about teachers breaking contracts?  WTH

 

Might be a consideration. If a person from outside NKY is hired how will you guys handle the fact that they are not "on site" until June? Little tough to leave from 100-200 miles away in January a few days a week to run out of season program, work out,  and return home and teach the next day. Factor in moving, putting together staff, getting to know community, and all the fan base expectations and it becomes difficult. Of course, if you fly them in on Bluebird 1.....

17 minutes ago, 9068 said:

Always amazes me that when folks hear "football coach" they honestly believe that is their sole responsibility in the school setting. Most coaches receive around 10k give or take for "extra duty" as a coach. My philosophy was always if you are being paid 50k as a teacher, AD, administrator, or whatever you better be 5 times better at that MAIN responsibility. I always stressed to young coaches to strive to be the BEST TEACHER in your school. If you are you will be a good coach, have great respect and support from other staff and the students, and a lot less likely for your district to want to part ways with you.

In KY that is true. In some states like AL, GA and TX though  guys get paid to be a football coach and their other “duties” are pretty light. There are some guys/places here that a pretty accommodating but it’s not the norm. I completely agree though people view “fill in the blank coach” is their only/main job. Many of those people don’t realize the time it takes to teach or coach let alone to do both. All the while making a pretty modest stipend that in some districts hasn’t changed in 15 or more years. 

10 hours ago, BEChargers said:

I know the "right" things have to be said and there are always hoops to jump through but in the end there is always going to be somebody that doesn't like it.  Who cares, it is impossible to please everyone.

And always people who think they should have a say when they shouldn't. 

10 hours ago, Harry Doyle said:

With that said- best of luck BW and the ‘Birds.  As crazy as it seems sometimes, the old saying usually holds true “everything works out for the best”. I hope that’s the case for both parties. 
 

I must say, and I’d be remised if I didn’t say this, but I saw some Highlands film this year, and I didn’t see a poorly (nor remotely close to that) football team.  When you watch just all of the little things? FWIW?  I saw a well coached football team.  
 

Now- as for the two platoon deal and several kids needing to play ways? I’d agree with that.  
 

Your last question and sentence were the biggest issue to me and have been for several years.  That is also a part of ‘coaching.’  

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7 minutes ago, PurplePride92 said:

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1 hour ago, Jack of all Trades said:

Your last question and sentence were the biggest issue to me and have been for several years.  That is also a part of ‘coaching.’  

Absolutely it is.  No question.  
 

I don’t know enough about what kids can do what up there, but just from an ‘outsiders’ view - it seemed like there were a few kids who never needed to come off the field.  
 

I will say thought that the little things they do (ie: linemen and their feet, stepping w the right feet, leverage, didn’t see kids out there who looked like they didn’t know what they were doing, maximum effort, etc   Defensively? Their alignment, stance, key, assignment....they still had that “synchronized football” look like I heard a very successful HC back around 07-08 say when seeing them on film...

 

 

Also, some coaches don’t teach and only coach. 

2 hours ago, barrel said:

In KY that is true. In some states like AL, GA and TX though  guys get paid to be a football coach and their other “duties” are pretty light. There are some guys/places here that a pretty accommodating but it’s not the norm. I completely agree though people view “fill in the blank coach” is their only/main job. Many of those people don’t realize the time it takes to teach or coach let alone to do both. All the while making a pretty modest stipend that in some districts hasn’t changed in 15 or more years. 

 

Saw smoke coming from the smoke stack at the school so a decision must be close.