TheDeuce Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Is accessibility greater today in the US than it was 50 years ago? Is gun violence greater today than it was 50 years ago? I'm not sure we could answer the accessibility question with any certainty. I'd have to assume violence is worse today, but without researching it would purely be a guess. How do those questions relate to the topic at hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plantmanky Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Any worse than what? The numbers in other countries? I dont think its worse than other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75center Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Is accessibility greater today in the US than it was 50 years ago? Is gun violence greater today than it was 50 years ago? No idea, best guess would be accessibility is tighter today but gun violence is greater. Which would seem counterintuitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 I dont think its worse than other countries. Okay. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plantmanky Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Okay. Based on what? Gun violence has always been there, its just in your face more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I'm not sure we could answer the accessibility question with any certainty. I'd have to assume violence is worse today, but without researching it would purely be a guess. How do those questions relate to the topic at hand? It was to the point that accessibility is a primary reason. I'm not saying that is wrong just thinking out loud. If accessibility is no greater today than it was 50 years ago and gun violence is higher than it would suggest accessibility is not a primary factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 It's not the worst, there are definitely countries experiencing much worse. But it could (and should) be better. U.S. Has 31st Highest Rate Of Gun Violence In The World : Goats and Soda : NPR To go with this, the US is 75th in intentional homicide rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Gun violence has always been there, its just in your face more. Even if that's true, how does that relate to the US' numbers next to other countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 It was to the point that accessibility is a primary reason. I'm not saying that is wrong just thinking out loud. If accessibility is no greater today than it was 50 years ago and gun violence is higher than it would suggest accessibility is not a primary factor. Gotcha. As I said earlier, I don't know if we could accurately determine the difference in accessibility between now and 50 years ago. What we can do, however, is compare accessibility now in the US to accessibility now globally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 According to this article America doesn't even make the top ten in mass shootings: But a study of global mass-shooting incidents from 2009 to 2015 by the Crime Prevention Research Center, headed by economist John Lott, shows the U.S. doesn't lead the world in mass shootings. In fact, it doesn't even make the top 10, when measured by death rate per million population from mass public shootings. So who's tops? Surprisingly, Norway is, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million (high no doubt because of the rifle assault by political extremist Anders Brevik that claimed 77 lives in 2011). No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089. Sorry, Despite Gun-Control Advocates' Claims, U.S. Isn't The Worst Country For Mass Shootings | Investor's Business Daily It is an interesting article that covers a lot of the topics we beat around in these threads. I’m going to take some time to fully read this article before I respond. I am intrigued that they are using rates/percentages as opposed to just the whole numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Rocket28 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Lack of parenting, and lack of people raising their kids with God as a priority for starters and being raised with no discipline or respect for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 According to this article America doesn't even make the top ten in mass shootings: But a study of global mass-shooting incidents from 2009 to 2015 by the Crime Prevention Research Center, headed by economist John Lott, shows the U.S. doesn't lead the world in mass shootings. In fact, it doesn't even make the top 10, when measured by death rate per million population from mass public shootings. So who's tops? Surprisingly, Norway is, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million (high no doubt because of the rifle assault by political extremist Anders Brevik that claimed 77 lives in 2011). No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089. Sorry, Despite Gun-Control Advocates' Claims, U.S. Isn't The Worst Country For Mass Shootings | Investor's Business Daily It is an interesting article that covers a lot of the topics we beat around in these threads. This particular thread isn't isolated to mass shootings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 This particular thread isn't isolated to mass shootings. I understand but I thought that was a relevant link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I’m going to take some time to fully read this article before I respond. I am intrigued that they are using rates/percentages as opposed to just the whole numbers. I will be interested to hear what you come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcats Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Lack of parenting, and lack of people raising their kids with God as a priority for starters and being raised with no discipline or respect for others. Some countries that are more violent are more religious and vice versa. Morals may be an answer, but I don’t buy religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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