EndzoneEyeCam Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Looks like to me you are right on it. Current system is badly broken. Those 3-4 hour bus trips to get beaten 60-0 does not help High School football in our state. Those games are point less and expensive to the football funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSCardinal Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Class 1a sure got a lot tougher in this scenario.. Adding Mayfield, OB Catholic, NCC, Cov Holy Cross & LCA.. 4 of those 5 going on the west side along with Murray..WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSCardinal Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 While 2a would lose some very good teams, they'd replace them with Belfry, Bardstown, Caldwell Co and Russell, so, it would somewhat balance itself out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watusi Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I haven't had time to really digest this, but I like it on the surface. You have put together a reasonable proposal and put a lot of thought and effort into it. Nice job. I love the main premise behind this. If we are going to be leaving teams out of the playoffs, why not leave out the least qualified teams, the ones with the lowest ratings. Makes a lot of sense. A debate of whether or not it would punish the small schools more could be held. In this example we are leaving out 29 teams, how many of them are current class A or AA teams? Is that fair? Maybe an argument could be made to leave off the very lowest rated 10 or 12 or 15 teams first, then break down everyone else into 6 classes, then leave off the lowest rated teams in each class until you are left with 32 playoff teams. Would that be much different? Would it be more fair? I don't know I'm just going off the cuff. At first glance, I have a little bit of concern about the district alignments/proposal. How tough is it to try and keep districts reasonably competitive? If you have a team like Johnson Central, who is geographically on a bit of an island enrollment wise, throwing them into a district with Sheldon Clark and Magoffin Co makes it even that much tougher for those bubble teams to make the playoffs because being forced to schedule Johnson Central will hurt their ratings. It won't help Johnson Central either. I know this is a cursory example, and JC would likely end up with Ashland, Greenup, et-al if it came to fruition, but that example just stood out to me. There are probably others. That to me would be the biggest obstacle and get the most opposition in your system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito Corleone Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Class 1a sure got a lot tougher in this scenario.. Adding Mayfield, OB Catholic, NCC, Cov Holy Cross & LCA.. 4 of those 5 going on the west side along with Murray..WOW I assume something would change where private schools are required to move up a class like other states. Mayfield is just, well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Seeing that the 29 that didn't qualify are spread across many classes, am I right in assuming that we wouldn't know exact class alignments until after the season and those teams are determined and pulled out prior to the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 FWIW on first review I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsmaniac Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Dayton did make the playoffs in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldercoach Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Wow! Read it, got it, like it! Only tweak I would suggest is alternating the semi-final regional match-ups so that the same path doesn't lead through Mayfield every year for Beechwood. Been there and done that too many times. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchs_uk9 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 Dayton did make the playoffs in 2016. This has nothing to do with who made the playoffs this year. It uses computer data and by the information Dayton wouldn't make it. And again, this is just an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchs_uk9 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 I assume something would change where private schools are required to move up a class like other states. Mayfield is just, well... That wasn't in the proposal. I'm not sure it is necessary, but it could certainly be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchs_uk9 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) At first glance, I have a little bit of concern about the district alignments/proposal. How tough is it to try and keep districts reasonably competitive? If you have a team like Johnson Central, who is geographically on a bit of an island enrollment wise, throwing them into a district with Sheldon Clark and Magoffin Co makes it even that much tougher for those bubble teams to make the playoffs because being forced to schedule Johnson Central will hurt their ratings. It won't help Johnson Central either. I know this is a cursory example, and JC would likely end up with Ashland, Greenup, et-al if it came to fruition, but that example just stood out to me. There are probably others. That to me would be the biggest obstacle and get the most opposition in your system. A valid example and concern. Johnson Central is something of an odd duck and it might make sense to place them with "16th Region" teams in this scenario. I did something similar with the 6th/7th Region teams in Louisville. By the way, those districts would change with the opening of the new Floyd Central school. I'd probably then have only Belfry, Johnson, Lawrence, and Pike Central in the "big" district. Edited November 7, 2016 by gchs_uk9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchs_uk9 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 I love the main premise behind this. If we are going to be leaving teams out of the playoffs, why not leave out the least qualified teams, the ones with the lowest ratings. Makes a lot of sense. A debate of whether or not it would punish the small schools more could be held. In this example we are leaving out 29 teams, how many of them are current class A or AA teams? Is that fair? Maybe an argument could be made to leave off the very lowest rated 10 or 12 or 15 teams first, then break down everyone else into 6 classes, then leave off the lowest rated teams in each class until you are left with 32 playoff teams. Would that be much different? Would it be more fair? I don't know I'm just going off the cuff. I used Calpreps and it certainly gives higher ratings to larger schools. I think we'd all agree that the 29 teams left out are the 29 worst, but it does punish the small schools over the larger. With that said, those small schools that "missed" the playoffs in this are typically the ones involved in 50-0 first round games. I'd hope the ranking system would give a bit more credence to small schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85_Rebel Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 As are all of your articles....very well done!:thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchs_uk9 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 Seeing that the 29 that didn't qualify are spread across many classes, am I right in assuming that we wouldn't know exact class alignments until after the season and those teams are determined and pulled out prior to the playoffs? Yes. Class alignments would be made known at the end of the regular season once all regular seasons games are played. In an ideal scenario, games on the last Friday end at 10pm, scores must immediately be reported, and the list of who makes/misses the playoffs would be available by midnight. Brackets would then be released at 6am the following morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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