NKY catholic schools

[Lawnboy13]

Ther delegate assembly can solve this issue by prohibiting All athletes from playing on outside teams from the first day of school til the final day of school. Currently only football and basketball players have this restriction.

 

If this was the rule you would find alot of kids picking AAU/Select and for going their High School teams. I think this issue was brought up to the KHSAA a year ago and this was the very reason they will never adopt this rule.

[Lawnboy13]

Since we're on this subject...I have an AAU bball club. When we are looking for players, if we hear you are a club volleyball player, we go the other way. Why, because most of the clubs in volleyball want you to only play volleyball unless you can "fit in" another sport that does not effect ANYTHING they do. It's really rediculous and it's almost like they have the families brainwashed into believing they are the only way to get into college and that their record for getting girls scholarships should tell you that.

 

The last time I checked, I didn't see where all these clubs were creating elite D1 players. I'm sure they have some, but what is the perentage of players that go through there get very high level D1 schollys. Now they may be able to say X percent (and that may be a high number) of our girls get athletic scholarships. That is great. But who is to say they wouldn't have got a scholly anyway and enjoyed the priveledge of playing multiple sports? Heck, by the time they are in high school, they may end up being better at the other sport! Or, they may get burned out on one and be able to fall back on the other. I see it all the time.

 

I bet if you ask the vball programs if they allow a player to play other sports, they will say "Absolutely!". But then tell you that you can't miss any vball for it. Well the problem is they require so much of your time, that you never have time to commit to other things. Any other select program is going to ask for a little flexibility, at least during their season of games. Vball is never flexible if you want to play for their top teams.

 

Back to scholarships...Here's the thing that I think people forget the most out of girls sports. They are never going to get paid to play the sports. They won't even have an opportunity like the boys do. If you remember that, then all you are doing is hoping they get an athletic scholly. That means by the time they are freshman in high school, they only have 8 years of the sport left, no matter what happens. That's it! Families that start their kids at a very young age pay thousands of dollars. I can't imagine what that is for someone that starts young. Fees for the club, paid training, travel, gas, equipment, etc for all those years add up to A LOT of money. I mean a lot! So if your daughter does make it all the way through the program, how much did you really save over the long run? What they don't tell you is how many drop out and dont' complete the program because they either are burned out or see the writing on the wall. When they give you percentages of the kids that get schollys, it's from the class they have left at the end. Well sure the percentage will be high when you look at it that way. What I would ask them is what is the percentage of girls that get schollys out of every girl that starts the program. So if I sign my daughter up at a young age and taking everything into consideration, what are the percentages she will get a scholly? They will start telling you well "if she does x, y, and z" there is a very high chance. The problem is not all can make it that far.

 

I would really ask myself, is it better to commit to one sport at an early age that comsumes ALL my time and not have the experience of trying other sports that I may end up liking better. And what happens once you have a huge investment into one sport and your daughter comes and says it's just too much. I know the easy answer would be to say "sure honey, whatever you want" But some parents can almost make it unhealthy because they think of the money first and the investment that they will not see pay off. I see it all the time. They either hurt their relationship with their daughter or end up forcing them to stick with it when the kid is done. Both are very unhealthy.

 

Another point. Since we know that the girl will never get paid and it's all about the scholarship, then why are we so concerned with a high D1 scholarship. So we can tell our friends "my daughter plays for "UCLA" or some other big program?" Because if you are really into it for the education, there are hundreds of low D1, D2 and D3 schools that provide a better education than several of the big schools. Hanover, Miami, X, Thomas Moore, the list goes on and on! I know that some of the smaller schools don't provide as many opportunities with full rides, but many of them do!

 

Sorry for the rant, but vball drives me crazy! It's even worse than soccer!!!

 

:laugh::laugh: I love it.

 

 

Holy Cow!!! did you have something you wanted to get off your chest!!!:lol: EXCELLENT POST.

[RCC9]

:laugh::laugh: I love it.

 

Holy Cow!!! did you have something you wanted to get off your chest!!!:lol: EXCELLENT POST.

 

YES I DID!! It really drives me crazy and I try to tell everyone that will listen!!

[TripleSevens]

Since we're on this subject...I have an AAU bball club. When we are looking for players, if we hear you are a club volleyball player, we go the other way. Why, because most of the clubs in volleyball want you to only play volleyball unless you can "fit in" another sport that does not effect ANYTHING they do. It's really rediculous and it's almost like they have the families brainwashed into believing they are the only way to get into college and that their record for getting girls scholarships should tell you that.

 

The last time I checked, I didn't see where all these clubs were creating elite D1 players. I'm sure they have some, but what is the perentage of players that go through there get very high level D1 schollys. Now they may be able to say X percent (and that may be a high number) of our girls get athletic scholarships. That is great. But who is to say they wouldn't have got a scholly anyway and enjoyed the priveledge of playing multiple sports? Heck, by the time they are in high school, they may end up being better at the other sport! Or, they may get burned out on one and be able to fall back on the other. I see it all the time.

 

I bet if you ask the vball programs if they allow a player to play other sports, they will say "Absolutely!". But then tell you that you can't miss any vball for it. Well the problem is they require so much of your time, that you never have time to commit to other things. Any other select program is going to ask for a little flexibility, at least during their season of games. Vball is never flexible if you want to play for their top teams.

 

Back to scholarships...Here's the thing that I think people forget the most out of girls sports. They are never going to get paid to play the sports. They won't even have an opportunity like the boys do. If you remember that, then all you are doing is hoping they get an athletic scholly. That means by the time they are freshman in high school, they only have 8 years of the sport left, no matter what happens. That's it! Families that start their kids at a very young age pay thousands of dollars. I can't imagine what that is for someone that starts young. Fees for the club, paid training, travel, gas, equipment, etc for all those years add up to A LOT of money. I mean a lot! So if your daughter does make it all the way through the program, how much did you really save over the long run? What they don't tell you is how many drop out and dont' complete the program because they either are burned out or see the writing on the wall. When they give you percentages of the kids that get schollys, it's from the class they have left at the end. Well sure the percentage will be high when you look at it that way. What I would ask them is what is the percentage of girls that get schollys out of every girl that starts the program. So if I sign my daughter up at a young age and taking everything into consideration, what are the percentages she will get a scholly? They will start telling you well "if she does x, y, and z" there is a very high chance. The problem is not all can make it that far.

 

I would really ask myself, is it better to commit to one sport at an early age that comsumes ALL my time and not have the experience of trying other sports that I may end up liking better. And what happens once you have a huge investment into one sport and your daughter comes and says it's just too much. I know the easy answer would be to say "sure honey, whatever you want" But some parents can almost make it unhealthy because they think of the money first and the investment that they will not see pay off. I see it all the time. They either hurt their relationship with their daughter or end up forcing them to stick with it when the kid is done. Both are very unhealthy.

 

Another point. Since we know that the girl will never get paid and it's all about the scholarship, then why are we so concerned with a high D1 scholarship. So we can tell our friends "my daughter plays for "UCLA" or some other big program?" Because if you are really into it for the education, there are hundreds of low D1, D2 and D3 schools that provide a better education than several of the big schools. Hanover, Miami, X, Thomas Moore, the list goes on and on! I know that some of the smaller schools don't provide as many opportunities with full rides, but many of them do!

 

Sorry for the rant, but vball drives me crazy! It's even worse than soccer!!!

 

EXAMPLE: It was brought to my attention about two months ago about 3 or 4 underclass high school girls from one high school all decided to quite bball...for the purpose of playing club volleyball. You have to understand that I was very surprised when I heard about these girls not playing bball anymore. Seriously, they were decent to very good bball players and most of them had tons of potential as most of them were only freshmen. When I asked why...why did they all quit, I was told it was for volleyball. They were told (supposedly guaranteed) they would get D1 scholarships if they committed to vball year round.

 

I don't want to be mean...only realistic. I saw these girls play vball. They were good and they had potential, but no way did I see big D1 in their future. I thought to myself, "wow, they are only young once. I hope they really aren't convinced they will get D1 scholarships. Whoever told them that and perhaps influenced them to quit bball better be there later to pay for their college when the D1 scholarship does not come."

[RCC9]

EXAMPLE: It was brought to my attention about two months ago about 3 or 4 underclass high school girls from one high school all decided to quite bball...for the purpose of playing club volleyball. You have to understand that I was very surprised when I heard about these girls not playing bball anymore. Seriously, they were decent to very good bball players and most of them had tons of potential as most of them were only freshmen. When I asked why...why did they all quit, I was told it was for volleyball. They were told (supposedly guaranteed) they would get D1 scholarships if they committed to vball year round.

 

I don't want to be mean...only realistic. I saw these girls play vball. They were good and they had potential, but no way did I see big D1 in their future. I thought to myself, "wow, they are only young once. I hope they really aren't convinced they will get D1 scholarships. Whoever told them that and perhaps influenced them to quit bball better be there later to pay for their college when the D1 scholarship does not come."

 

We have the same situation going on where my daughter goes to school. They are in jeopardy of not having a freshman bball team because 4 of the girls that have played bball since grade school played high school vball this year for the first time. They are just now going to start club volleyball (as freshman) and say that vball won't allow them to have enough time to play. It's obviously up to them, but I wonder how much pressure they have on them from their vball high school coach and then the club, once they decide.

[BabyD22]

Since we're on this subject...I have an AAU bball club. When we are looking for players, if we hear you are a club volleyball player, we go the other way. Why, because most of the clubs in volleyball want you to only play volleyball unless you can "fit in" another sport that does not effect ANYTHING they do. It's really rediculous and it's almost like they have the families brainwashed into believing they are the only way to get into college and that their record for getting girls scholarships should tell you that.

 

The last time I checked, I didn't see where all these clubs were creating elite D1 players. I'm sure they have some, but what is the perentage of players that go through there get very high level D1 schollys. Now they may be able to say X percent (and that may be a high number) of our girls get athletic scholarships. That is great. But who is to say they wouldn't have got a scholly anyway and enjoyed the priveledge of playing multiple sports? Heck, by the time they are in high school, they may end up being better at the other sport! Or, they may get burned out on one and be able to fall back on the other. I see it all the time.

 

I bet if you ask the vball programs if they allow a player to play other sports, they will say "Absolutely!". But then tell you that you can't miss any vball for it. Well the problem is they require so much of your time, that you never have time to commit to other things. Any other select program is going to ask for a little flexibility, at least during their season of games. Vball is never flexible if you want to play for their top teams.

 

Back to scholarships...Here's the thing that I think people forget the most out of girls sports. They are never going to get paid to play the sports. They won't even have an opportunity like the boys do. If you remember that, then all you are doing is hoping they get an athletic scholly. That means by the time they are freshman in high school, they only have 8 years of the sport left, no matter what happens. That's it! Families that start their kids at a very young age pay thousands of dollars. I can't imagine what that is for someone that starts young. Fees for the club, paid training, travel, gas, equipment, etc for all those years add up to A LOT of money. I mean a lot! So if your daughter does make it all the way through the program, how much did you really save over the long run? What they don't tell you is how many drop out and dont' complete the program because they either are burned out or see the writing on the wall. When they give you percentages of the kids that get schollys, it's from the class they have left at the end. Well sure the percentage will be high when you look at it that way. What I would ask them is what is the percentage of girls that get schollys out of every girl that starts the program. So if I sign my daughter up at a young age and taking everything into consideration, what are the percentages she will get a scholly? They will start telling you well "if she does x, y, and z" there is a very high chance. The problem is not all can make it that far.

 

I would really ask myself, is it better to commit to one sport at an early age that comsumes ALL my time and not have the experience of trying other sports that I may end up liking better. And what happens once you have a huge investment into one sport and your daughter comes and says it's just too much. I know the easy answer would be to say "sure honey, whatever you want" But some parents can almost make it unhealthy because they think of the money first and the investment that they will not see pay off. I see it all the time. They either hurt their relationship with their daughter or end up forcing them to stick with it when the kid is done. Both are very unhealthy.

 

Another point. Since we know that the girl will never get paid and it's all about the scholarship, then why are we so concerned with a high D1 scholarship. So we can tell our friends "my daughter plays for "UCLA" or some other big program?" Because if you are really into it for the education, there are hundreds of low D1, D2 and D3 schools that provide a better education than several of the big schools. Hanover, Miami, X, Thomas Moore, the list goes on and on! I know that some of the smaller schools don't provide as many opportunities with full rides, but many of them do!

 

Sorry for the rant, but vball drives me crazy! It's even worse than soccer!!!

 

Awesome...I tell my daughters that Soccer is a Communist Sport (they give Red Cards) and Volleyball is a Socialist Sport (Yellow Cards). I am not having my daughters decide until they need to plus I refuse to pay that kind of money when most of the coaches the club sports have are not as qualified as most of the coaches my daughters can/have play(ed) for in the Catholic School System. Throw in the fact that their is physical and mental burnout and the real chance of repetitive motion injuries that can lead to the major damage like ACL, knees, ankles, stress fractures, growth plates... There is just no advantage to have 5th, 6th and 7th grade girls play one sport year round. Throwing all your eggs in one basket can kill your chances in high school once you get cut.

[hoops5]

My middle schooler plays select soccer and AAU basketball. Both bball and soccer coaches have said that he will need to choose. We say no way. We are pretty confident that he is good enough in both sports to play both in high school. We have no clue if he would play at the next level in either sport. So we are not going to make him quit basketball for a chance at a soccer scholly. Academics! That's where we tell our kids to get that college funding!

[BlueKrush]

losing Davenport won't hurt Brossart too much.

 

If you've seen her play in AAU or grade school, you wouldn't be saying that.

[BlueKrush]

There is just no advantage to have 5th, 6th and 7th grade girls play one sport year round. Throwing all your eggs in one basket can kill your chances in high school once you get cut.

 

Fun fact - 80% of the USA Women's Volleyball team played more than 1 sport in High School. That said, these are exceptional athletes. If you are good, club volleyball teams and high schools will make exceptions and work with you. The official word will always be the same sets of rules apply to everyone, but as we all know, in sports and in life, that's just not true.

 

I will say don't get scared off from club volleyball by horror stories from past seasons - every area volleyball club these days is willing to work with you on scheduling - likely because their numbers are down due to the economy and they know that good athletes have a choice.

 

back on topic: word on the street is an ND basketball starter is not returning to play her senior season. Absent from all workouts and conditioning. I would say ND no longer the R9 favorite.

[Lawnboy13]

Fun fact - 80% of the USA Women's Volleyball team played more than 1 sport in High School. That said, these are exceptional athletes. If you are good, club volleyball teams and high schools will make exceptions and work with you. The official word will always be the same sets of rules apply to everyone, but as we all know, in sports and in life, that's just not true.

 

I will say don't get scared off from club volleyball by horror stories from past seasons - every area volleyball club these days is willing to work with you on scheduling - likely because their numbers are down due to the economy and they know that good athletes have a choice.

 

back on topic: word on the street is an ND basketball starter is not returning to play her senior season. Absent from all workouts and conditioning. I would say ND no longer the R9 favorite.

 

Well many of us are not on that street to hear that word, so give it up......who is it? Don't be afraid to share this info.

[hoops5]

Well many of us are not on that street to hear that word, so give it up......who is it? Don't be afraid to share this info.

:lol: What street is that? Got my GPS ready....

[BlueKrush]

I'd rather not say because it's 3rd hand info - but I believe it to be true. We'll all find out together in about 6 weeks - it will be obvious.

[Lawnboy13]

I'd rather not say because it's 3rd hand info - but I believe it to be true. We'll all find out together in about 6 weeks - it will be obvious.

 

Who wants to wait 6 weeks???? Come on man...spit it out. :irked:

[RCC9]

Who wants to wait 6 weeks???? Come on man...spit it out. :irked:

 

Think "big girl"...I think! They will still be good though.