Point guard from that St. Mary's team went to NewCath and was a key player. Shanon and King are really good players who went to Brossart. Brossart gets another good post player from St. Philips in Schultz. Solid freshman class. Davenport is a really good player and will help NewCath. Good point guards are hard to find. The pipeline for NewCath is solid. They have several girls from the St. Joe's 7th grade (now 8th graders) who won the Diocesean championship going to NewCath. Several other girls from St. Therese, Holy Trinity, St. Catherine and St. Thomas will help. Pipeline, serious? Where is Brossarts pipeline? St. Mary's had one really good class and Tom did a great job coaching them!

 

Davenport is a really good player, I agree. She is one of the St. Mary kids that was a no-brainer in choosing NCC. Brother Austin graduated from there last year. Olivia Nienaber was on Tom's team also at St. Mary and is no slouch at handling the ball so losing Davenport won't hurt Brossart too much.

Just curious. We were heading out to that area for 4 years in a row for the tourney, both boys and girls. Just wondering why it never switches to other schools or even counties in the Diocese. :idunno:

Joe Heil handled the boys and for years Bill Reinhart handled the girls. They were held at St. Joe's or Brossart depending on gym availability. No one from across the licking would step up to get involved. It seems to be a bigger deal on the Campbell side of the river as I think one year one of the girls teams forfeited the championship game in order to play in another game?

Joe Heil handled the boys and for years Bill Reinhart handled the girls. They were held at St. Joe's or Brossart depending on gym availability. No one from across the licking would step up to get involved. It seems to be a bigger deal on the Campbell side of the river as I think one year one of the girls teams forfeited the championship game in order to play in another game?

 

 

I almost posted that I wished TAC would see this because I knew you would have the whole story! :thumb:

Joe Heil handled the boys and for years Bill Reinhart handled the girls. They were held at St. Joe's or Brossart depending on gym availability. No one from across the licking would step up to get involved. It seems to be a bigger deal on the Campbell side of the river as I think one year one of the girls teams forfeited the championship game in order to play in another game?

Thanks. I have only lived in NKY for 6 years so I did not know the history.

Pipline to NewCath seems to run through St. Joe's, sorry Brossart you will need to have the younger players come to your high school Freshman practices from out of your feeder schools to showcase what you have and where you feel they will fit. 8th grader from St. Joe's attended NewCath freshman practices last year and guess where they go this year? Come on Mustangs claim your players so we Camels can enjoy a solid rivalry for years to come.

 

99.9% of those kids are coming to NewCath no matter what, so you can stop thinking there is some sort of "funny business" taking place. Most of these kids either have/had brothers, sisters, or moms & dads who are NewCath grads so it obvious where they are going to attend high school. :ohbrother:

Obviously Lawnboy is exhausted doing the lawn so the real top five should be this year. Don't forget NCC lost their best player, Ron Dawn. Brtossart retruns it's entire coaching staff plus added another excellent coach who was an assistant at the University of Louisville. St. Joe's big girl Sowkowski went to Notre Dame Academy. Several, including Amanda Lloyd went to Brossart. It depends on several factors. :idunno:

Approximately 40 girls with Campbell County zip codes went to NDA this year

Obviously Lawnboy is exhausted doing the lawn so the real top five should be this year. Don't forget NCC lost their best player, Ron Dawn. Brtossart retruns it's entire coaching staff plus added another excellent coach who was an assistant at the University of Louisville. St. Joe's big girl Sowkowski went to Notre Dame Academy. Several, including Amanda Lloyd went to Brossart. It depends on several factors. :idunno:

 

Madison Salkowski is not going to play basketball from what i have been told. She is going to concentrate on volleyball. There are several very good freshmen at NDA making that same decision.

^Just curious, is that because there are more opportunities at the next level for volleyball versus girls basketball?

Madison Salkowski is not going to play basketball from what i have been told. She is going to concentrate on volleyball. There are several very good freshmen at NDA making that same decision.

 

 

Interesting how many of these girls will be playing varsity vball come their senior year. Too much talent in vball tells me 11 freshman vball players won't be playing varsity. You may see some go back to basketball. Those kids may still play club vball and that is where the schollies get offered. So, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

^Just curious, is that because there are more opportunities at the next level for volleyball versus girls basketball?

 

I would say that is part of it. The other part is that if you want to pursue volleyball then you need to play club volleyball. Club teams start practicing in November or December. Some clubs will not excuse you from missing practice due to High School basketball. Some will but it is a very busy schedule to try to do both. Same problem comes up when softball season gets here. The club season gets over in May. Some of the more serious clubs can play up to July or so.

I would say that is part of it. The other part is that if you want to pursue volleyball then you need to play club volleyball. Club teams start practicing in November or December. Some clubs will not excuse you from missing practice due to High School basketball. Some will but it is a very busy schedule to try to do both. Same problem comes up when softball season gets here. The club season gets over in May. Some of the more serious clubs can play up to July or so.

 

Since we're on this subject...I have an AAU bball club. When we are looking for players, if we hear you are a club volleyball player, we go the other way. Why, because most of the clubs in volleyball want you to only play volleyball unless you can "fit in" another sport that does not effect ANYTHING they do. It's really rediculous and it's almost like they have the families brainwashed into believing they are the only way to get into college and that their record for getting girls scholarships should tell you that.

 

The last time I checked, I didn't see where all these clubs were creating elite D1 players. I'm sure they have some, but what is the perentage of players that go through there get very high level D1 schollys. Now they may be able to say X percent (and that may be a high number) of our girls get athletic scholarships. That is great. But who is to say they wouldn't have got a scholly anyway and enjoyed the priveledge of playing multiple sports? Heck, by the time they are in high school, they may end up being better at the other sport! Or, they may get burned out on one and be able to fall back on the other. I see it all the time.

 

I bet if you ask the vball programs if they allow a player to play other sports, they will say "Absolutely!". But then tell you that you can't miss any vball for it. Well the problem is they require so much of your time, that you never have time to commit to other things. Any other select program is going to ask for a little flexibility, at least during their season of games. Vball is never flexible if you want to play for their top teams.

 

Back to scholarships...Here's the thing that I think people forget the most out of girls sports. They are never going to get paid to play the sports. They won't even have an opportunity like the boys do. If you remember that, then all you are doing is hoping they get an athletic scholly. That means by the time they are freshman in high school, they only have 8 years of the sport left, no matter what happens. That's it! Families that start their kids at a very young age pay thousands of dollars. I can't imagine what that is for someone that starts young. Fees for the club, paid training, travel, gas, equipment, etc for all those years add up to A LOT of money. I mean a lot! So if your daughter does make it all the way through the program, how much did you really save over the long run? What they don't tell you is how many drop out and dont' complete the program because they either are burned out or see the writing on the wall. When they give you percentages of the kids that get schollys, it's from the class they have left at the end. Well sure the percentage will be high when you look at it that way. What I would ask them is what is the percentage of girls that get schollys out of every girl that starts the program. So if I sign my daughter up at a young age and taking everything into consideration, what are the percentages she will get a scholly? They will start telling you well "if she does x, y, and z" there is a very high chance. The problem is not all can make it that far.

 

I would really ask myself, is it better to commit to one sport at an early age that comsumes ALL my time and not have the experience of trying other sports that I may end up liking better. And what happens once you have a huge investment into one sport and your daughter comes and says it's just too much. I know the easy answer would be to say "sure honey, whatever you want" But some parents can almost make it unhealthy because they think of the money first and the investment that they will not see pay off. I see it all the time. They either hurt their relationship with their daughter or end up forcing them to stick with it when the kid is done. Both are very unhealthy.

 

Another point. Since we know that the girl will never get paid and it's all about the scholarship, then why are we so concerned with a high D1 scholarship. So we can tell our friends "my daughter plays for "UCLA" or some other big program?" Because if you are really into it for the education, there are hundreds of low D1, D2 and D3 schools that provide a better education than several of the big schools. Hanover, Miami, X, Thomas Moore, the list goes on and on! I know that some of the smaller schools don't provide as many opportunities with full rides, but many of them do!

 

Sorry for the rant, but vball drives me crazy! It's even worse than soccer!!!

Since we're on this subject...I have an AAU bball club. When we are looking for players, if we hear you are a club volleyball player, we go the other way. Why, because most of the clubs in volleyball want you to only play volleyball unless you can "fit in" another sport that does not effect ANYTHING they do. It's really rediculous and it's almost like they have the families brainwashed into believing they are the only way to get into college and that their record for getting girls scholarships should tell you that.

 

The last time I checked, I didn't see where all these clubs were creating elite D1 players. I'm sure they have some, but what is the perentage of players that go through there get very high level D1 schollys. Now they may be able to say X percent (and that may be a high number) of our girls get athletic scholarships. That is great. But who is to say they wouldn't have got a scholly anyway and enjoyed the priveledge of playing multiple sports? Heck, by the time they are in high school, they may end up being better at the other sport! Or, they may get burned out on one and be able to fall back on the other. I see it all the time.

 

I bet if you ask the vball programs if they allow a player to play other sports, they will say "Absolutely!". But then tell you that you can't miss any vball for it. Well the problem is they require so much of your time, that you never have time to commit to other things. Any other select program is going to ask for a little flexibility, at least during their season of games. Vball is never flexible if you want to play for their top teams.

 

Back to scholarships...Here's the thing that I think people forget the most out of girls sports. They are never going to get paid to play the sports. They won't even have an opportunity like the boys do. If you remember that, then all you are doing is hoping they get an athletic scholly. That means by the time they are freshman in high school, they only have 8 years of the sport left, no matter what happens. That's it! Families that start their kids at a very young age pay thousands of dollars. I can't imagine what that is for someone that starts young. Fees for the club, paid training, travel, gas, equipment, etc for all those years add up to A LOT of money. I mean a lot! So if your daughter does make it all the way through the program, how much did you really save over the long run? What they don't tell you is how many drop out and dont' complete the program because they either are burned out or see the writing on the wall. When they give you percentages of the kids that get schollys, it's from the class they have left at the end. Well sure the percentage will be high when you look at it that way. What I would ask them is what is the percentage of girls that get schollys out of every girl that starts the program. So if I sign my daughter up at a young age and taking everything into consideration, what are the percentages she will get a scholly? They will start telling you well "if she does x, y, and z" there is a very high chance. The problem is not all can make it that far.

 

I would really ask myself, is it better to commit to one sport at an early age that comsumes ALL my time and not have the experience of trying other sports that I may end up liking better. And what happens once you have a huge investment into one sport and your daughter comes and says it's just too much. I know the easy answer would be to say "sure honey, whatever you want" But some parents can almost make it unhealthy because they think of the money first and the investment that they will not see pay off. I see it all the time. They either hurt their relationship with their daughter or end up forcing them to stick with it when the kid is done. Both are very unhealthy.

 

Another point. Since we know that the girl will never get paid and it's all about the scholarship, then why are we so concerned with a high D1 scholarship. So we can tell our friends "my daughter plays for "UCLA" or some other big program?" Because if you are really into it for the education, there are hundreds of low D1, D2 and D3 schools that provide a better education than several of the big schools. Hanover, Miami, X, Thomas Moore, the list goes on and on! I know that some of the smaller schools don't provide as many opportunities with full rides, but many of them do!

 

Sorry for the rant, but vball drives me crazy! It's even worse than soccer!!!

 

Excellent post. The "system" is broken and I hate to say it but I think it is beyond repair.

Ther delegate assembly can solve this issue by prohibiting All athletes from playing on outside teams from the first day of school til the final day of school. Currently only football and basketball players have this restriction.

Ther delegate assembly can solve this issue by prohibiting All athletes from playing on outside teams from the first day of school til the final day of school. Currently only football and basketball players have this restriction.

Basketball players do not have this restriction once basketball season is over. Basketball players cannot play on an outside team after the first day school starts. Once high school ball season is over, they can play on AAU basketball teams.