Wireman Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm not sure what this cop was thinking but I bet he'll be sorry soon, if not already: ‘This is crazy,’ sobs Utah hospital nurse as cop roughs her up, arrests her for doing her job - The Washington Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueFan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If video is legit, officer definitely needs better training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawildcat Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I back the blue for sure but this guy needs to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Good for her doing the right thing. He needs to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnottieDrippen Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If you don't know the laws, or are willing to break them to get what you want, you shouldn't be allowed to enforce them. Sounds like his commanding officer has explaining to do also if I read that correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAC Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If video is legit, officer definitely needs better training. Cop looks to be out of line. But there was a lot of editing on that clip we saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwoodfan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 He should be charged with assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonels_Wear_Blue Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Cop looks to be out of line. But there was a lot of editing on that clip we saw. There is an uncut 19 minute video out there from the other officer's body cam. It shows essentially more of the same...the nurse asking whether the man the cops brought in is under arrest or if there is a warrant, cop saying no, nurse saying she can't draw blood without the man's consent, which she is unable to get while he is not conscious. Then there's a bunch of going back and forth with "draw the blood"..."I can't"..."I'm telling you to"..."I can't". Then you see essentially what we see in the video...the nurse calls her supervisor who confirms everything she is saying to the cop, then the cop deciding he's had enough and taking things into his own hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonels_Wear_Blue Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 He should be charged with assault. Agreed. If I made a mistake of that caliber at my job, I can pretty well count on being out of a job. This officer is still on active duty, he was only removed from duty on the SLPD's blood draw unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If the Police Officer did not have a legal right to draw the blood and therefore probably (I say probably because I don't know the facts) no legal right to make an arrest the Police Officer should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonels_Wear_Blue Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The Salt Lake City mayor and SLPD police chief are having a press conference at 11:45 local time (6 minutes from now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonels_Wear_Blue Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The Salt Lake City mayor and SLPD police chief are having a press conference at 11:45 local time (6 minutes from now). Presser is to follow up this joint statement, issued earlier today by the two of them: http://www.slcmayor.com/pressreleases/2017/9/1/statements-from-mayor-jackie-biskupski-and-salt-lake-city-police-department-chief-mike-brown-on-incident-at-university-of-utah-medical-center September 1, 2017 Statements from Mayor Jackie Biskupski and Salt Lake City Police Department Chief Mike Brown on incident at University of Utah Medical Center Mayor Jackie Biskupski: “Like many of you, I watched the video of police officers interacting with University of Utah Medical Center nurse Alex Wubbles for the first time through the media late yesterday. What I saw is completely unacceptable to the values of my Administration and of the values of the Salt Lake City Police Department. I extend a personal apology to Ms. Wubbles for what she has been through for simply doing her job. There is currently an Internal Affairs investigation examining the actions, and the Civilian Review Board is conducting a parallel investigation. I have reiterated to Chief Brown that I expect the highest level of professionalism and integrity from his team. I have also instructed Chief Brown to conduct a thorough review of all policies and trainings to ensure respect for all individuals, in all situations. Following the incident Salt Lake City Police Department command met with hospital administration. We immediately changed policies that may have been a factor in this encounter, and the officer’s duties have been modified. I take these incidences very seriously. Since I took office, I have been working with Salt Lake City Police Department to increase our use of de-escalation techniques and we have had great success, and this incident is a troubling set back to those efforts. No medical professional in Salt Lake City should be hindered from performing their duties, and certainly not be fearful of the police officers they so often partner with to save lives.” Chief Mike Brown: “I was alarmed by what I saw in the video with our officer and Ms. Wubbles. I am sad at the rift this has caused between law-enforcement and the nurses we work so closely with. I want to be clear, we take this very seriously. Immediate steps were taken and within 12 hours, body cam footage was reviewed and an internal affairs investigation started. We've looked at the actions that took place, the policies that could have prevented it, and the training that must be done. Within 24 hours of this incident, Salt Lake City Police Department took steps to ensure this will never happen again. We met with hospital CEO and COO, Nursing Management Team, their legal representation team, and University of Utah Chief Brophy. Most notable of all these conversations were that we apologized for the incident and promised to find a solution. Additionally, our policy management team continues to work closely with the hospital staff on improved policies and training. To date, we have suspended the officer from the blood draw program. We have already replaced our blood draw policy with a new policy. All remaining officers on the blood draw program have reviewed, and are operating under the new policy and protocol. It is my sincere desire to get back to a very cooperative, respectful, and friendly relationship with our “brothers and sisters in white” we work so closely with. Salt Lake City Police Officers have a very soft spot in our hearts for all medical professionals. We know that if we are ever hurt in the line of duty, it is their caring hands that will perhaps save our lives one day. I believe we can learn from mistakes and from building strong relationships with everyone we work with and serve. By doing that we become a stronger police department.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plantmanky Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If the Police Officer did not have a legal right to draw the blood and therefore probably (I say probably because I don't know the facts) no legal right to make an arrest the Police Officer should be fired. And if he was just following orders from a superior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plantmanky Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Presser is to follow up this joint statement, issued earlier today by the two of them: http://www.slcmayor.com/pressreleases/2017/9/1/statements-from-mayor-jackie-biskupski-and-salt-lake-city-police-department-chief-mike-brown-on-incident-at-university-of-utah-medical-center September 1, 2017 Statements from Mayor Jackie Biskupski and Salt Lake City Police Department Chief Mike Brown on incident at University of Utah Medical Center Mayor Jackie Biskupski: “Like many of you, I watched the video of police officers interacting with University of Utah Medical Center nurse Alex Wubbles for the first time through the media late yesterday. What I saw is completely unacceptable to the values of my Administration and of the values of the Salt Lake City Police Department. I extend a personal apology to Ms. Wubbles for what she has been through for simply doing her job. There is currently an Internal Affairs investigation examining the actions, and the Civilian Review Board is conducting a parallel investigation. I have reiterated to Chief Brown that I expect the highest level of professionalism and integrity from his team. I have also instructed Chief Brown to conduct a thorough review of all policies and trainings to ensure respect for all individuals, in all situations. Following the incident Salt Lake City Police Department command met with hospital administration. We immediately changed policies that may have been a factor in this encounter, and the officer’s duties have been modified. I take these incidences very seriously. Since I took office, I have been working with Salt Lake City Police Department to increase our use of de-escalation techniques and we have had great success, and this incident is a troubling set back to those efforts. No medical professional in Salt Lake City should be hindered from performing their duties, and certainly not be fearful of the police officers they so often partner with to save lives.” Chief Mike Brown: “I was alarmed by what I saw in the video with our officer and Ms. Wubbles. I am sad at the rift this has caused between law-enforcement and the nurses we work so closely with. I want to be clear, we take this very seriously. Immediate steps were taken and within 12 hours, body cam footage was reviewed and an internal affairs investigation started. We've looked at the actions that took place, the policies that could have prevented it, and the training that must be done. Within 24 hours of this incident, Salt Lake City Police Department took steps to ensure this will never happen again. We met with hospital CEO and COO, Nursing Management Team, their legal representation team, and University of Utah Chief Brophy. Most notable of all these conversations were that we apologized for the incident and promised to find a solution. Additionally, our policy management team continues to work closely with the hospital staff on improved policies and training. To date, we have suspended the officer from the blood draw program. We have already replaced our blood draw policy with a new policy. All remaining officers on the blood draw program have reviewed, and are operating under the new policy and protocol. It is my sincere desire to get back to a very cooperative, respectful, and friendly relationship with our “brothers and sisters in white” we work so closely with. Salt Lake City Police Officers have a very soft spot in our hearts for all medical professionals. We know that if we are ever hurt in the line of duty, it is their caring hands that will perhaps save our lives one day. I believe we can learn from mistakes and from building strong relationships with everyone we work with and serve. By doing that we become a stronger police department.” Wait what? This happened over a month ago, and they are just now seeing the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 And if he was just following orders from a superior? You don't have to follow illegal orders. There will be a lot changes at that Police Department as a result of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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