Adam Dunn - Team Leader

[Clyde]

Probably not. However, Pujols is a talent that you keep and build around. Obviously Dunn isn't.

 

Probably not? Probably not? That's as far as you'll go on what is 100% obvious to everyone else?

 

So Pujols would be a loser as well since he would have been on really bad teams despite his strong offensive performance?

[History]

Pujols has played 3B, OF and 1B in his career, and is arguably the best player of his generation. Dunn isn't the best position player on his current crummy team. That would be Ryan Zimmerman.

[Clyde]

Well he has proven to not be part of a winner. That is a fact.

 

You are correct. He was never on a winner.

 

What does that prove when we're talking about a 53-man roster in regards to how good one player was?

[Clyde]

Clyde the Reds are winning and Dunn is on the Nationals-they stink! Those are facts. JP will be back jsut like everyone else form ESPN. He will be in the majors much longer thasn the Dunner.

 

Thank you. Your avoidance of the obvious tells me that I'm correct. Your argument has no substance.

[History]

Probably not? Probably not? That's as far as you'll go on what is 100% obvious to everyone else?

 

So Pujols would be a loser as well since he would have been on really bad teams despite his strong offensive performance?

 

Pujols is a winner and the LEADER of the Cardinals, a playoff contender every year. Dunn is a left handed Dave Kingman and hasn't made a playoff appearance yet.

[Clyde]

Pujols has played 3B, OF and 1B in his career, and is arguably the best player of his generation. Dunn isn't the best position player on his current crummy team. That would be Ryan Zimmerman.

 

One more meaningless point thrown into this by History.

 

Unfortunately, that's not the debate.

[Clyde]

Pujols is a winner and the LEADER of the Cardinals, a playoff contender every year. Dunn is a left handed Dave Kingman and hasn't made a playoff appearance yet.

 

Not according to Malachi. The Reds would have sucked with Pujols as well, thus, he is a LOSER.

[History]

The thread started by Clyde was Adam Dunn-Team Leader, and the answer to that is no. Teams don't deal their team leader. Dunn has already been on three different clubs-soon to be a fourth. Pujols hasn't been traded and won't be traded by the Cardinals.

 

To compare Dunn to Pujols in any way is an afront to the Cardinals first baseman.

[malachicrunch]

I really thought we were over the Adam Dunn saga. Guess not. Let's see how well he leads the Dodgers toward the pennant. Didn't work out for AZ. Should be a hoot.

[Clyde]

 

To compare Dunn to Pujols in any way is an afront to the Cardinals first baseman.

 

Especially when its used to accurately show the "loser" claim as false. Pujuls is not a loser. He would not be a loser had he been stuck on the bad Reds teams despite that being your measuring stick.

 

You can debate the leader issue but the "loser" issue has been 100% proven false by the Pujols comparison. Ask Malachi. He agrees.

[Clyde]

I really thought we were over the Adam Dunn saga. Guess not. Let's see how well he leads the Dodgers toward the pennant. Didn't work out for AZ. Should be a hoot.

 

Has he been picked up by LA?

 

If so, you're sahying that should the Dodgers fail to make up 7 games AND pass 3 teams that Dunn would be to blame?

[UKMustangFan]

Has he been picked up by LA?

 

If so, you're sahying that should the Dodgers fail to make up 7 games AND pass 3 teams that Dunn would be to blame?

 

That's what I was just trying to figure out...I haven't seen anything anywhere.

[History]

Especially when its used to accurately show the "loser" claim as false. Pujuls is not a loser. He would not be a loser had he been stuck on the bad Reds teams despite that being your measuring stick.

 

You can debate the leader issue but the "loser" issue has been 100% proven false by the Pujols comparison. Ask Malachi. He agrees.

 

You seem to be running from the thread you created. Adam Dunn is not a leader. 3 MLB teams have already seen it. Sorry you don't like the answer.

[malachicrunch]

Has he been picked up by LA?

 

If so, you're sahying that should the Dodgers fail to make up 7 games AND pass 3 teams that Dunn would be to blame?

AZ was leading their division when he arrived. Not so when he left. He didn't post difference meaning numbers in AZ. So if he is in LA. Let's see if they improve, or wane even further. From what you are saying, you know, great leader, awesome run producer, then they should instantly be better the day he strolls into Chevas Ravine. Correct?

[UKMustangFan]

AZ was leading their division when he arrived. Not so when he left. He didn't post difference meaning numbers in AZ. So if he is in LA. Let's see if they improve, or wane even further. From what you are saying, you know, great leader, awesome run producer, then they should instantly be better the day he strolls into Chevas Ravine. Correct?

 

When did he go to LA?